On Dec 18, 2008, at 1:10 PM, Josh Thompson wrote:

Thanks for the link; we'll look through the information. Most of us will be out the next 2 weeks; so, in order to have enough discussion for something as big as the name of the project, we'll need to wait until we get back in
January to consider changing the name.

Yeah, no rush.  Just getting the discussion started.

I do have some questions as to why we can't keep the name.

Something I don't understand is that if NCSU were to completely stop doing anything with VCL other than developing it at ASF, and then were to set up an install of it in a year, wouldn't we call it whatever it is called at ASF? In which case we'd be back to the state of using the same name. That goes for anyone that wants to run it. Does another entity have to change the name of it if they install it? If not, they'd be using using the name for the
exact same product.

Let's use Apache Geronimo as an example. If I were a company that took the product, maybe added some stuff, maybe not, and then sold it as the "Acme Geronimo Application Server", the ASF would be after me with a baseball bat. I could, however, sell it as "Acme Application Server based on Apache Geronimo". Think of it as a trademark thing.

We're not planning on developing anything here at NCSU in parallel to what's being developed at ASF. We're planning on doing all development based at

Yeah, it doesn't matter where the development is. Think of it as like a trademark thing.


On Thursday December 18, 2008, Alan D. Cabrera wrote:

The mere fact that the origin of the project, NCSU, will continue to
use the VCL name for the exact same product means we have to find a
new name.


On Dec 18, 2008, at 9:11 AM, Aaron Peeler wrote:
We were under the impression the apache project name could also be
called vcl, which why we stuck with it.

We're fine to rename it in the incubator, definitely better to do it
sooner than later, but could you let us know why we'd have to? Are
there any policies or docs you can point us at?


--On December 18, 2008 8:14:50 AM -0800 "Alan D. Cabrera"


I think the CLA relates to the code. As for the name, if we use it I
think NCSU has to stop using it.   Maybe it's a good idea to think
of a
new name.


On Dec 18, 2008, at 6:24 AM, Aaron Peeler wrote:
I don't think so. With our NCSU legal signing the corp. CLA, that
pretty much approved the use of the name for the ASF project.

It's what we've used for the last 4+ years and what many other
schools know it as.


--On December 17, 2008 7:21:41 PM -0800 "Alan D. Cabrera"


Isn't this the same name that's at NCSU?  Will that be a problem?


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