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Maybe we should look at this from a different angle - is there anything that
*can* happen for the name to continue as "VCL" at ASF?
Josh
On Tuesday January 06, 2009, Alan D. Cabrera wrote:
> Thanks for your comments Matt.
>
> Well, it's after the holidays. Time to pick this thread back up.
> This issue needs to be resolved before we graduate.
>
>
> Regards,
> Alan
>
> On Dec 19, 2008, at 1:01 PM, Matt Hogstrom wrote:
> > Alan,
> >
> > Thanks for starting the discussion about this. I think there are a
> > few different issues so I'll try to separate them. The issues we
> > need to address is the trademark of VCL and the other is the
> > identity of the community. Perhaps we should talk about these in
> > reverse order.
> >
> > First is the identity of the community. The move of the
> > development for the VCL codebase from NC State to Apache marked the
> > formation of a community outside of NC State. So, what NC State
> > decides to do or not to do is not particularly relevant to the
> > community collaborating at Apache. Given this separation, perhaps a
> > different name is appropriate so their is a clear distinction
> > between NC State's use of VCL and the Apache Incubator's community.
> >
> > As far as the name goes. Since Virtualization and hosting is, well,
> > virtual, perhaps a name like spectre or Casper would be good :)
> > (ya, I already can see the naming police coming).
> >
> > On Dec 19, 2008, at 10:19 AM, Henry E Schaffer wrote:
> >> Alan writes:
> >>> ...
> >>> If VCL is a trademark owned by NCSU then they would have to assign
> >>> the
> >>> trademark to the ASF or we would have to change our project's name.
> >>
> >> OK - I think we've reached a very clear question to be resolved. I
> >> think here's what needs to be resolved (at least in my mind):
> >>
> >> If VCL is a trademark owned by NCSU, and If NCSU assigns the
> >> ownership
> >> to the ASF - then would ASF give NCSU permission to continue its web
> >> site as is (possibly with an acknowledgement to the ASF)?
> >>
> >> Alternatively: If VCL is a trademark owned by NCSU, and If NCSU
> >> doesn't assign the ownership to the ASF, but gives permission to
> >> ASF to use
> >> "VCL" as part of naming this ASF project - could, and would the ASF
> >> use
> >> "AVCL" ("Apache VCL") as the name? (Or some other formulation which
> >> would be an Apache name but clearly portray to users and potential
> >> users
> >> that it's the same project.)
> >>
> >> Does the above make sense?
> >> --
> >> --henry schaffer
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Josh Thompson
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Virtual Computing Lab (VCL)
North Carolina State University
josh_thomp...@ncsu.edu
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