Hi DonO;
 
Your reply is almost as funny as the recipie.  I'm told the original recipie 
was quite effective though.
 
Wayneb

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From: Don Ordes <f...@tribcsp.com>
Subject: Re: [VFB] RE: Rope dubbing a Tups Indsipensible- comparisons
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Friday, November 5, 2010, 2:47 PM



Wow, I thought Buggs smoked some good stuff!
A good reason not to get any wool pulled over your eyes by Mr. Tups.
Does changing this method cause any ramifications?
Eeeewwe, ba-a-a-a-a-d, no-kidding.
 
Buggs 
 
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From: Wayne Blake-Hedges 
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Sent: Friday, November 05, 2010 12:23 PM
Subject: Re: [VFB] RE: Rope dubbing a Tups Indsipensible- comparisons






Hi DonO;
 
True Tups dubbing is made from the wool on a ram's testicles.  It was urine 
stained and also pink stained from red dye placed on the ewe's nether regions.  
When a Ram performed his "duty", he would get some red dye mixed with the urine 
stained wool around his testicles producing a pinkish, translucent wool.
 
The dubbing blend I'm using provides the closest substutue many have found to 
date.
 
I'll have to try rope dubbing and then brushing and see if I can obtain similar 
results to what I'm getting now.
 
Wayneb

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From: Don Ordes <f...@tribcsp.com>
Subject: Re: [VFB] RE: Rope dubbing a Tups Indsipensible- comparisons
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Friday, November 5, 2010, 1:17 PM



By 'sacred' means no substitutions allowed, which makes fly-tying pretty pagan.
 
Don't forget your wire brush- before or after you wrap.  
 
DonO

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From: Wayne Blake-Hedges 
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Sent: Friday, November 05, 2010 11:06 AM
Subject: Re: [VFB] RE: Rope dubbing a Tups Indsipensible- comparisons






Hi DonO;
 
What do you mean by "sacred"  are you reffering to the true "Tups" blend or 
what I'm using?
 
It's amazing how many variations you see of this pattern, not only that it was 
tied as a dry fly, wet fly and as a nymph. I'm trying to tie a "Tups Flymph" 
type pattern and the dubbing blend I'm using gives me the result I desire.  One 
thing I have thought of that would allow me to better use the rope dubbing 
technique is, to keep the wool fibers longer than indicated in the recipie.
 
Wayneb

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From: Don Ordes <f...@tribcsp.com>
Subject: Re: [VFB] RE: Rope dubbing a Tups Indsipensible- comparisons
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Thursday, November 4, 2010, 3:57 PM






Wayne, here is one I pulled from the internet ^
 
Here's yours V

How 'sacred' is the dubbing blend- material and color?
 
DonO
 

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Wayne Blake-Hedges 
To: virtual flybox 
Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 1:46 PM
Subject: [VFB] RE: Rope dubbing a Tups Indsipensible






Hi Dono;
 
Here's a photo I have of some earlier attempts:  
http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii179/Waynebh/IMGP0015.jpg
 
The fly is composed of Gutermans sewing silk abdomen, with a home made wool 
dubbing from the following reciepie:  To prepare the dubbing, cut off 
approximately 25 inches of natural-shade (#098) "Fisherman's Wool". This is 
available from Lion Brand Yarn Company (http://www.LionBrand.com). Next, cut 
off 3 inches of True Red (#114) yarn, also available from Lion Brand. The dull 
orange (needle felting) wool comes from Felt Works Dimensions and is available 
from many craft stores. Take the lengths of Fisherman's Wool and red yarn and 
cut into half-inch pieces. First blend the Fisherman's Wool, then the red wool, 
then combine the two and mix again in a blender. Once these are blended, tease 
out approximately 1 inch of cheddar-shade needle felting wool and cut into 
quarter-inch pieces. Blend with the previous two. This results in a creamy pink 
dubbing with just a hint of dull orange scattered faintly throughout the wad."

I know you can touch dub using a rope dub method, it was just not working for 
me.
 
Wayneb

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