Do you use permanent markers as you do this? Do you have to have a different toothbrush for each color you use? Inquiring minds want to know. joyce
On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 1:57 PM, Don Ordes <[email protected]> wrote: > Wayne, > > Save all of your old tooth brushes. One cool trick I found, not really > related to rope-dubing, is to color an old toothbrush with permanent marker, > > then quick-like (before it dries) brush out a rope or even finished fly. > It leaves hues and shades of color that can't be blended in beforehand. The > under-rope and segments are hilited because the color is added to the humps > only if you do it after you wrap. > > Say you want a stonefly with a darker brown back and a tan belly. Rope the > fly out tan and then brush on the top color right where you want it, to the > darkness you want, even graduating or blending colors. Using the marker > itself tends to saturate in and then bleed out (yuk), but the tooth-brush > carries only enough color to the fly to highlight and shade it. > > Or, once you have your yellow rope formed and brushed out, hit it with a > toothbrush colored with pink marker. Will give pink hi-lites without > actually coloring the yellow over to pink. (like blending, but frosting the > tips only) > > I do a normal tooth-brush with three colors to a brush and keep them right > there with the markers. Coloring with stiff toothbrushes also fuzzes out > the dubbing. > > I know. I know. Someone will say someone else does this or did it 1st. > I've never seen it. Don't doubt it. Can't address it. Don't care who was > first. It's just a thing I do that I'm sharing. Been using hiliters for 30 > years, been brushing on colors for that long. End of story. > > Works for all nymphs, stones, dries, eggs, whatever. > > DonO > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Wayne Blake-Hedges <[email protected]> > *To:* [email protected] > *Sent:* Friday, November 05, 2010 1:38 PM > *Subject:* Re: [VFB] RE: Rope dubbing a Tups Indsipensible- comparisons > > Hi DonO; > > Your reply is almost as funny as the recipie. I'm told the original > recipie was quite effective though. > > Wayneb > > --- On *Fri, 11/5/10, Don Ordes <[email protected]>* wrote: > > > From: Don Ordes <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [VFB] RE: Rope dubbing a Tups Indsipensible- comparisons > To: [email protected] > Date: Friday, November 5, 2010, 2:47 PM > > Wow, I thought Buggs smoked some good stuff! > A good reason not to get any wool pulled over your eyes by Mr. Tups. > Does changing this method cause any ramifications? > Eeeewwe, ba-a-a-a-a-d, no-kidding. > > Buggs > > ----- Original Message ----- > > *From:* Wayne > Blake-Hedges<http://us.mc1115.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> > *To:* > [email protected]<http://us.mc1115.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> > *Sent:* Friday, November 05, 2010 12:23 PM > *Subject:* Re: [VFB] RE: Rope dubbing a Tups Indsipensible- comparisons > > Hi DonO; > > True Tups dubbing is made from the wool on a ram's testicles. It was urine > stained and also pink stained from red dye placed on the ewe's nether > regions. When a Ram performed his "duty", he would get some red dye mixed > with the urine stained wool around his testicles producing a pinkish, > translucent wool. > > The dubbing blend I'm using provides the closest substutue many have found > to date. > > I'll have to try rope dubbing and then brushing and see if I can obtain > similar results to what I'm getting now. > > Wayneb > > --- On *Fri, 11/5/10, Don Ordes <[email protected]>* wrote: > > > From: Don Ordes <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [VFB] RE: Rope dubbing a Tups Indsipensible- comparisons > To: [email protected] > Date: Friday, November 5, 2010, 1:17 PM > > By 'sacred' means no substitutions allowed, which makes fly-tying pretty > pagan. > > Don't forget your wire brush- before or after you wrap. > > DonO > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Wayne > Blake-Hedges<http://us.mc1115.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> > *To:* > [email protected]<http://us.mc1115.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> > *Sent:* Friday, November 05, 2010 11:06 AM > *Subject:* Re: [VFB] RE: Rope dubbing a Tups Indsipensible- comparisons > > Hi DonO; > > What do you mean by "sacred" are you reffering to the true "Tups" blend or > what I'm using? > > It's amazing how many variations you see of this pattern, not only that it > was tied as a dry fly, wet fly and as a nymph. I'm trying to tie a "Tups > Flymph" type pattern and the dubbing blend I'm using gives me the result I > desire. One thing I have thought of that would allow me to better use the > rope dubbing technique is, to keep the wool fibers longer than indicated in > the recipie. > > Wayneb > > --- On *Thu, 11/4/10, Don Ordes <[email protected]>* wrote: > > > From: Don Ordes <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [VFB] RE: Rope dubbing a Tups Indsipensible- comparisons > To: [email protected] > Date: Thursday, November 4, 2010, 3:57 PM > > Wayne, here is one I pulled from the internet ^ > > Here's yours V > How 'sacred' is the dubbing blend- material and color? > > DonO > > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Wayne > Blake-Hedges<http://us.mc1115.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> > *To:* virtual > flybox<http://us.mc1115.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> > *Sent:* Thursday, November 04, 2010 1:46 PM > *Subject:* [VFB] RE: Rope dubbing a Tups Indsipensible > > Hi Dono; > > Here's a photo I have of some earlier attempts: > http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii179/Waynebh/IMGP0015.jpg > > The fly is composed of Gutermans sewing silk abdomen, with a home made wool > dubbing from the following reciepie: To prepare the dubbing, cut off > approximately 25 inches of natural-shade (#098) "Fisherman's Wool". This is > available from Lion Brand Yarn Company > (http://www.LionBrand.com<http://www.lionbrand.com/>). > Next, cut off 3 inches of True Red (#114) yarn, also available from Lion > Brand. The dull orange (needle felting) wool comes from Felt Works > Dimensions and is available from many craft stores. Take the lengths of > Fisherman's Wool and red yarn and cut into half-inch pieces. First blend the > Fisherman's Wool, then the red wool, then combine the two and mix again in a > blender. Once these are blended, tease out approximately 1 inch of > cheddar-shade needle felting wool and cut into quarter-inch pieces. Blend > with the previous two. This results in a creamy pink dubbing with just a > hint of dull orange scattered faintly throughout the wad." > > I know you can touch dub using a rope dub method, it was just not working > for me. > > Wayneb > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" > group. > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected] > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en > > VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" > group. > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected] > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en > > VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" > group. > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected] > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en > > VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" > group. > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected] > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en > > VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" > group. > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected] > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en > > VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" > group. > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected] > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en > > VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" > group. > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected] > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en > > VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" > group. > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected] > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en > > VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. 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