Joyce,
On the long toothbrushes, I put 3 colors per brush.
I have older permanent Pantone Markers, but I believe the Spirit River markers
are the same.
I make sure I re-cap my markers, and most of them are over 15 years old, and
some of them date back 25 years.
Many have dried out and been replaced, and that happened when I didn't get the
caps back on tight.
(I'm a tight-wad, it's Buggs who leaves them open)
It's hard to tell what colors are on some of the brushes, like the orange is
very close to the reddish brown.
So if the tooth-brush can be match-colored also on the back side, I do this to
make it easier to pick the right color.
I had some eyelash brushes, but I lost them somewhere, tiny as they were. They
worked good.
I'm thinking of a color 'applicator' that would be easy (cheap) to make and may
work like bristles. We'll see.
It will consist of a popsickle stick with a strip of leather glued to the end,
about a 1/4" long, with the rough side out.
A little sandpaper to roughen it up a bit more and it should take color real
well and then I can rub it on the fly body.
Will let you know how it works out.
You'll like the subtile hues this brushing gives flies, rather than sharp
edges. If you are doing multiple identical flies,
color them all at once on a piece of hard styrofoam. It'll go faster and you
won't have the marker open as long.
DonO
----- Original Message -----
From: Joyce M Westphal
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, November 05, 2010 7:22 PM
Subject: Re: [VFB] RE: Rope dubbing- color shading tip
Do you use permanent markers as you do this? Do you have to have a different
toothbrush for each color you use? Inquiring minds want to know. joyce
On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 1:57 PM, Don Ordes <f...@tribcsp.com> wrote:
Wayne,
Save all of your old tooth brushes. One cool trick I found, not really
related to rope-dubing, is to color an old toothbrush with permanent marker,
then quick-like (before it dries) brush out a rope or even finished fly.
It leaves hues and shades of color that can't be blended in beforehand. The
under-rope and segments are hilited because the color is added to the humps
only if you do it after you wrap.
Say you want a stonefly with a darker brown back and a tan belly. Rope the
fly out tan and then brush on the top color right where you want it, to the
darkness you want, even graduating or blending colors. Using the marker itself
tends to saturate in and then bleed out (yuk), but the tooth-brush carries only
enough color to the fly to highlight and shade it.
Or, once you have your yellow rope formed and brushed out, hit it with a
toothbrush colored with pink marker. Will give pink hi-lites without actually
coloring the yellow over to pink. (like blending, but frosting the tips only)
I do a normal tooth-brush with three colors to a brush and keep them right
there with the markers. Coloring with stiff toothbrushes also fuzzes out the
dubbing.
I know. I know. Someone will say someone else does this or did it 1st.
I've never seen it. Don't doubt it. Can't address it. Don't care who was
first. It's just a thing I do that I'm sharing. Been using hiliters for 30
years, been brushing on colors for that long. End of story.
Works for all nymphs, stones, dries, eggs, whatever.
DonO
----- Original Message -----
From: Wayne Blake-Hedges
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, November 05, 2010 1:38 PM
Subject: Re: [VFB] RE: Rope dubbing a Tups Indsipensible- comparisons
Hi DonO;
Your reply is almost as funny as the recipie. I'm told the
original recipie was quite effective though.
Wayneb
--- On Fri, 11/5/10, Don Ordes <f...@tribcsp.com> wrote:
From: Don Ordes <f...@tribcsp.com>
Subject: Re: [VFB] RE: Rope dubbing a Tups Indsipensible-
comparisons
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Friday, November 5, 2010, 2:47 PM
Wow, I thought Buggs smoked some good stuff!
A good reason not to get any wool pulled over your eyes by Mr.
Tups.
Does changing this method cause any ramifications?
Eeeewwe, ba-a-a-a-a-d, no-kidding.
Buggs
----- Original Message -----
From: Wayne Blake-Hedges
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, November 05, 2010 12:23 PM
Subject: Re: [VFB] RE: Rope dubbing a Tups Indsipensible-
comparisons
Hi DonO;
True Tups dubbing is made from the wool on a ram's
testicles. It was urine stained and also pink stained from red dye placed on
the ewe's nether regions. When a Ram performed his "duty", he would get some
red dye mixed with the urine stained wool around his testicles producing a
pinkish, translucent wool.
The dubbing blend I'm using provides the closest
substutue many have found to date.
I'll have to try rope dubbing and then brushing and see
if I can obtain similar results to what I'm getting now.
Wayneb
--- On Fri, 11/5/10, Don Ordes <f...@tribcsp.com> wrote:
From: Don Ordes <f...@tribcsp.com>
Subject: Re: [VFB] RE: Rope dubbing a Tups
Indsipensible- comparisons
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Friday, November 5, 2010, 1:17 PM
By 'sacred' means no substitutions allowed, which makes
fly-tying pretty pagan.
Don't forget your wire brush- before or after you wrap.
DonO
----- Original Message -----
From: Wayne Blake-Hedges
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, November 05, 2010 11:06 AM
Subject: Re: [VFB] RE: Rope dubbing a Tups
Indsipensible- comparisons
Hi DonO;
What do you mean by "sacred" are you reffering
to the true "Tups" blend or what I'm using?
It's amazing how many variations you see of
this pattern, not only that it was tied as a dry fly, wet fly and as a nymph.
I'm trying to tie a "Tups Flymph" type pattern and the dubbing blend I'm using
gives me the result I desire. One thing I have thought of that would allow me
to better use the rope dubbing technique is, to keep the wool fibers longer
than indicated in the recipie.
Wayneb
--- On Thu, 11/4/10, Don Ordes
<f...@tribcsp.com> wrote:
From: Don Ordes <f...@tribcsp.com>
Subject: Re: [VFB] RE: Rope dubbing a Tups
Indsipensible- comparisons
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Thursday, November 4, 2010, 3:57 PM
Wayne, here is one I pulled from the internet ^
Here's yours V
How 'sacred' is the dubbing blend- material and
color?
DonO
----- Original Message -----
From: Wayne Blake-Hedges
To: virtual flybox
Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 1:46 PM
Subject: [VFB] RE: Rope dubbing a Tups
Indsipensible
Hi Dono;
Here's a photo I have of some earlier attempts:
http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii179/Waynebh/IMGP0015.jpg
The fly is composed of Gutermans sewing silk
abdomen, with a home made wool dubbing from the following reciepie: To prepare
the dubbing, cut off approximately 25 inches of natural-shade (#098)
"Fisherman's Wool". This is available from Lion Brand Yarn Company
(http://www.LionBrand.com). Next, cut off 3 inches of True Red (#114) yarn,
also available from Lion Brand. The dull orange (needle felting) wool comes
from Felt Works Dimensions and is available from many craft stores. Take the
lengths of Fisherman's Wool and red yarn and cut into half-inch pieces. First
blend the Fisherman's Wool, then the red wool, then combine the two and mix
again in a blender. Once these are blended, tease out approximately 1 inch of
cheddar-shade needle felting wool and cut into quarter-inch pieces. Blend with
the previous two. This results in a creamy pink dubbing with just a hint of
dull orange scattered faintly throughout the wad."
I know you can touch dub using a rope dub
method, it was just not working for me.
Wayneb
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