Great article. I've never tied a tube fly, but shall make some once
the Christmas rush is over. How do you keep these in your fly box
once you've tied them>? Do you attach line with a loop, then run it
through the tube and thus have it ready when you need it on the
stream? Inquiring minds want to know. I can speak to the crow bar
effect..lost several great kings in AK with just that happening.
They'd jump, swing their heads and then the hook would come flying out
of their mouths. Got smart and used some rather shorter shanked Fat
Alberts and egg sucking leeches to overcome the effect. Wish I lived
close enough for a seminar on this aspect of tying. Joyce
On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 2:20 AM, Don Ordes <f...@tribcsp.com
<mailto:f...@tribcsp.com>> wrote:
For any type of fishing, a drawback of long-shanked hooks is the
'crow-bar' effect. The pull against the eye of the hook is
transferred to the bend with the shank acting as a lever against
the fish's jaw. This can do a lot of damage to the fish if hooked
solidly (wallow out a hole), or bend the shank, or leverage the
bend and barb right out of the hook-set hole- again damaging the
fish in the process. The bigger and stronger the fish is, the
worse the problem is.
A short shank hook keeps a hook-set better, especially with fish
that roll. I've never witnessed a tuna rolling, though, LOL.
(Shhhhhhh.... I have a new shrimp pattern in a tube design because
I wanted to get away from long-shanked hooks just to get a tying
platform.)
Hooks can be selected for the quarry and fishing circumstance
rather than pre-tied into the fly.
You can change during fishing as you see the need. You may want
to try a double hook, or a circle hook, or a smaller hook, etc.,
or change from freshwater bronze to saltwater alloy. Or, you can
fish bronze hooks in saltwater, which would allow the hook to
dissolve quickly if a fish breaks off, and you don't have to worry
about a bronze hook corroding underneath the materials in a
saltwater-fished fly.
The tube-fly can also side up the tippet to get it away from the
teeth once the hook-set is made. If the fly is tied on the +-side
of neutral bouyancy, a broken off fly will float to the surface.
But if you want this fly to sink while fishing, a heavy hook and
some brass beads between the hook and tube will get it down to the
fish, as in fising for Spanish Mackeral running 15' down. A tiny
bit of foam glued into the end of the tube will keep a big hook
from prematurely backing away from the tube during a strip-stop
retreive or a long sink to the zone.
Tube flies can also be tied articulated, actually stacked. For
example, you could have a 2-part squid (tentacles + eyes/mantle)
in different colors to mix&match. There's some web-sites showing
articulated tube flies- just Google them up.
Just my 2 cents worth.
Back ito my padded cell.
DonO
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*From:* Jay Paulson <mailto:rustyh...@centurytel.net>
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*Sent:* Tuesday, November 09, 2010 12:51 PM
*Subject:* RE: [VFB] was Hello, now tube flies
Many tube diameters can hold the hook by itself. I also glue a
larger diameter tube over the smaller tube the fly is tied on
for large hooks. This is actually preferable as the rubber
tubing doesn’t hold the hook well for hooking (IMHO). The
reason many people in Europe use treble hooks is that salmon
are very good at throwing a single hook. I fished Norway this
year and can attest to that. I also think that salmon are good
at this cause they know if landed, they are going to get
bonked. I must admit to not understanding this, especially the
killing of grilse. However, my buddy from London landed a 20
pounder (netted by me) that was released!
There are many short-shanked, large-gapped hooks available now
for tube flies.
For a great source of tubes, check out:
http://www.hmhvises.com/tubesconeshooks.htm
Jay
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<mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com>] *On Behalf Of *ashley strutt
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*Subject:* Re: [VFB] was Hello, now tube flies
I know that a lot of people like to use single hooks for their
tubes, I notice that Partridge market them.
I also remember Deb, who used to be on the list, saying that
she liked to use tubes for Bluefish tied on plastic tubes
because when the fish takes the fly slides up the leader and
if the leader breaks she can just pick up the floating fly.
Although I thought that tubes were held in place at the
tube/hook join by a length of rubber tubing.
Ashley
On 9 November 2010 19:01, Jay Paulson
<rustyh...@centurytel.net <mailto:rustyh...@centurytel.net>>
wrote:
In Atlantic Salmon fishing, tube flies allow the use of a
small treble hook or double hook – much used over there. Here
in the Pacific NW, tube flies are a great way to build a long
fly with little weight and to put a small hook at the back.
For my dries, tubes allow me to build large flies without
using ungainly hooks. I throw dry flies for steelhead up to 3
inches long.
Articulated flies are also used a lot, but I have some
reservations about the hooking abilities of them. Tubes hold
the hook rigidly and, I feel, hook more consisitently.
Jay
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<mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com>] *On Behalf Of *Wayne
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*Subject:* Re: [VFB] was Hello, now tube flies
Hi All;
I still don't see the advantages to tying a tube fly versus a
conventional fly, can someone point out why you would want to
tie a tube fly?
Wayneb
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From: Hans Weilenmann <hans.weilenm...@gmail.com
<mailto:hans.weilenm...@gmail.com>>
Subject: Re: [VFB] was Hello, now tube flies
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
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Date: Tuesday, November 9, 2010, 9:23 AM
Like this set maybe?
http://www.danica.com/flytier/jshumakov/jshumakov.htm
Cheers,
Hans
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