John, I noticed that the shop in Madris carries some great looking spey hackle, I didn't buy any while I was there, but I may end up having them send me some. You might give that stuff a try to hackle yours with.
Dave Wilson http://www.wilsonsworld.org -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of John Martinez Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2002 7:46 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [VFB] Flatwing Style Flies Hi Dave- Good point. In fact I'm trying my hand at doing traditional Spey and Dee flies in an effort to expand my tying horizons (and frustrations). I've always avoided winged style flies and gone for hairwing patterns instead. Actually the flat wing styles I was referring to are somewhat different. I don't have the magazines here in front of me, so I don't have the exact details, but as Deborah(?) mentioned, the developer of the pattern lives on the East Coast and started tying them as baitfish imitations for stripers. Hope I get this right, but according to what I get from the articles, the wings aren't necessarily paired, but consist of long hackle feathers tied flat atop the wing. This is an overly simple description, of course. Part of the style is using combinations of feathers to achieve a color effect. If you want say, olive, instead of using a dyed olive feather, you would use a blue feather, a yellow feather and perhaps a red feather (you artist types correct me if I got this screwed up) to achieve a blended color effect which appears more natural. You can also tie in small amounts of synthetic materials for flash. The appearance, at least in the magazines, since I've never held an actual fly in my hand, is very striking and makes a beautiful fly. Back to the Spey and Dee styles, I recently got the John Shewey book on the subject and am slowly getting the idea. So far none of the flies I've tied are anything that I would show anyone, except a fish. Apparently the fish aren't impressed either. -John Oregon --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hello John: > Are you referrring to Dee flies? they are flat wing > flies and very > effective on steelhead and searuns. > Dave in Oregon > > On Mon, 23 Sep 2002 18:38:03 -0700 (PDT) John > Martinez > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Hi All- > > > > Was just reading the Dec issue of Fly Fisherman. > They > > have an article on flatwing flies which led me to > dig > > around in the tying room and retrieve a back issue > of > > Fly Tying from last summer which also had an > article > > on the same thing. > > > > I have a couple of questions just out of > curiosity, > > first of all, has anyone tied some of these up and > > tried them out in the salt and second has anyone > tied > > them up and tried them out in freshwater? Reason I > ask > > is I'm kind of intrigued by the notion of trying > to > > adapt this style and trying it out on steelhead. > Just > > wondered if anyone else on the list has adapted > this > > pattern for other than saltwater species. > > > > Thanks for any replies. > > > > -John > > Oregon > > > > ===== > > The River- > > You passers-by, who share my journey, > > You move and change,I move and am the same; > > You move and are gone, I move and remain. > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! > > http://sbc.yahoo.com > > > ===== The River- You passers-by, who share my journey, You move and change,I move and am the same; You move and are gone, I move and remain. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! http://sbc.yahoo.com
