Hi Deborah, I love to tye Striper flies but the "Flat Wing" and the "Crazy
Menhaden" fly sound like something I really need to know about --and to see!
I know I am busting in on your letter to John but ----whereas it came thru
VFB I thought you might not mind.
    I am fully retired and I live in York Harbor, Maine. My fly tying is
just for the sheer pleasure of it ---and to provide my brother David ( also
retired) with plenty of fly's because he sure needs a supplier the way he
goes thru them. He fishes off the rocks along the York and Ogunquit coast
with enormous success. That's something I can no longer do. For me it's
necessary to be in a boat.
    Well, that is enough gab for tonight.......Thank You ..........Doyle


- Original Message -----
From: "Deborah Duran" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2002 1:14 PM
Subject: Re: [VFB] Flatwing Style Flies


> John
> I'd really like to swap a few flies.  I didn't realize how little exposure
> the flat wing fly has gotten on your coast until I started reading these
> posts.  It takes me about an hour to tie a really good example of Ken
> Abrames patterns.  My husband loves them.  When the striper hit they hit
> hard and fast.  We've had really good results with the crazy menhaden
> pattern.  Ken isn't big on synthetics he does use Bill's Body braid and
> flashabou.  His blending goes beyond just the feather colors.  You also
> blend the Buck tail for an effect that's just beautiful.  He's a very good
> artist.  I really enjoy this tying.  Ken himself ties some very sparse
> flies.  Although some of the patterns call for up to 14 feathers.  The fly
> on the front of your summer issue is one of those.  Most of the tiers I
know
> like them a little thicker. I haven't snorkled with one yet.  From what I
> understand is the method of which they are tied they flow in the water to
> create the illusion of the bait.  Size is only limited by the materials
you
> have access to.  I have tied them up to 12 inches.  I prefer them 7 - 9
> inches for fishing.
> Please check out Kens websight and Bulletin Boards.   www.stripermoon.com
> Let me know how you would like to swap and I'll tie up a couple for you.
> Deb
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John Martinez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2002 10:50 AM
> Subject: Re: [VFB] Flatwing Style Flies
>
>
> > Deborah-
> >
> > I'd be more than delighted to swap a few flies with
> > you. However, my Spey/Dee style flies (as I mentioned
> > in a previous post) are still in definite need of much
> > more practice. If you don't mind some hairwing and
> > maribou styles, I be happy do do that.
> >
> > Let me know and I'll tie up a traditional dress
> > steelhead fly pattern or two and a local variant.
> >
> >                        -John
> >                         Oregon
> >
> > --- Deborah Duran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > John
> > > If you need a sample I'd be glad to swap flies with
> > > you.  I don't get to see
> > > a lot of salmon flies or spey flies here in Rhode
> > > Island.  I'm trying to
> > > learn more about tieing these.  I noticed a few of
> > > you talking about
> > > menhaden.  The flat wing menhaden pattern works very
> > > well.  I tie it around
> > > nine inches long. If tied correctly they won't get
> > > wrapped around the hook.
> > > Deb
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "John Martinez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Monday, September 23, 2002 9:38 PM
> > > Subject: [VFB] Flatwing Style Flies
> > >
> > >
> > > > Hi All-
> > > >
> > > > Was just reading the Dec issue of Fly Fisherman.
> > > They
> > > > have an article on flatwing flies which led me to
> > > dig
> > > > around in the tying room and retrieve a back issue
> > > of
> > > > Fly Tying from last summer which also had an
> > > article
> > > > on the same thing.
> > > >
> > > > I have a couple of questions just out of
> > > curiosity,
> > > > first of all, has anyone tied some of these up and
> > > > tried them out in the salt and second has anyone
> > > tied
> > > > them up and tried them out in freshwater? Reason I
> > > ask
> > > > is I'm kind of intrigued by the notion of trying
> > > to
> > > > adapt this style and trying it out on steelhead.
> > > Just
> > > > wondered if anyone else on the list has adapted
> > > this
> > > > pattern for other than saltwater species.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for any replies.
> > > >
> > > >                            -John
> > > >                             Oregon
> > > >
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