John
I'd really like to swap a few flies.  I didn't realize how little exposure
the flat wing fly has gotten on your coast until I started reading these
posts.  It takes me about an hour to tie a really good example of Ken
Abrames patterns.  My husband loves them.  When the striper hit they hit
hard and fast.  We've had really good results with the crazy menhaden
pattern.  Ken isn't big on synthetics he does use Bill's Body braid and
flashabou.  His blending goes beyond just the feather colors.  You also
blend the Buck tail for an effect that's just beautiful.  He's a very good
artist.  I really enjoy this tying.  Ken himself ties some very sparse
flies.  Although some of the patterns call for up to 14 feathers.  The fly
on the front of your summer issue is one of those.  Most of the tiers I know
like them a little thicker. I haven't snorkled with one yet.  From what I
understand is the method of which they are tied they flow in the water to
create the illusion of the bait.  Size is only limited by the materials you
have access to.  I have tied them up to 12 inches.  I prefer them 7 - 9
inches for fishing.
Please check out Kens websight and Bulletin Boards.   www.stripermoon.com
Let me know how you would like to swap and I'll tie up a couple for you.
Deb
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Martinez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2002 10:50 AM
Subject: Re: [VFB] Flatwing Style Flies


> Deborah-
>
> I'd be more than delighted to swap a few flies with
> you. However, my Spey/Dee style flies (as I mentioned
> in a previous post) are still in definite need of much
> more practice. If you don't mind some hairwing and
> maribou styles, I be happy do do that.
>
> Let me know and I'll tie up a traditional dress
> steelhead fly pattern or two and a local variant.
>
>                        -John
>                         Oregon
>
> --- Deborah Duran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > John
> > If you need a sample I'd be glad to swap flies with
> > you.  I don't get to see
> > a lot of salmon flies or spey flies here in Rhode
> > Island.  I'm trying to
> > learn more about tieing these.  I noticed a few of
> > you talking about
> > menhaden.  The flat wing menhaden pattern works very
> > well.  I tie it around
> > nine inches long. If tied correctly they won't get
> > wrapped around the hook.
> > Deb
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "John Martinez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Monday, September 23, 2002 9:38 PM
> > Subject: [VFB] Flatwing Style Flies
> >
> >
> > > Hi All-
> > >
> > > Was just reading the Dec issue of Fly Fisherman.
> > They
> > > have an article on flatwing flies which led me to
> > dig
> > > around in the tying room and retrieve a back issue
> > of
> > > Fly Tying from last summer which also had an
> > article
> > > on the same thing.
> > >
> > > I have a couple of questions just out of
> > curiosity,
> > > first of all, has anyone tied some of these up and
> > > tried them out in the salt and second has anyone
> > tied
> > > them up and tried them out in freshwater? Reason I
> > ask
> > > is I'm kind of intrigued by the notion of trying
> > to
> > > adapt this style and trying it out on steelhead.
> > Just
> > > wondered if anyone else on the list has adapted
> > this
> > > pattern for other than saltwater species.
> > >
> > > Thanks for any replies.
> > >
> > >                            -John
> > >                             Oregon
> > >
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