Larry,
First of all, take out the word 'spinning' from what you are trying to do on
this caddis.  Actually, if you are 'spinning' deer air, your results are
correct.  What you are trying to do with a Goddard caddis is to stack a hair
wing.  Since you don't want it to spin, don't let it spin. Pinch the trimmed
hair on top of the tie-down point, rolling the tips of your fingers back
just a little from the tie-down point.  Then tie a few snug (but not
tight)wraps of thread around the hair just in front of your fingers, one
right over the other, roll your fingers back toward the eye, and then pull
the thread tight as you keep the pinch going.  The thread will cinch tight
without rolling (spinning) the hair to the rear of the hook.  Bring the
thread under the flared head to the eye and whip off.  Trim the flared to
shape.

It's easier demonstrated than explained.  It's also very similar in
technique to stacking winged wet flies.

It's the opposite if you are tying a muddler.  For them you want to release
the hair to spin around the hook as you pull tension on the thread.  This is
'spinning' and the results are what you want for a muddler.

Let me know how it works out.

DonO

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Larry Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2004 7:46 PM
Subject: [VFB] spinning deer hair


This question is for DonO, or any one on the list who has the experience of
spinning a lot of deer hair.  I was trying to tie some Goddard Caddis
tonight.  I seem to be unable to keep the hair from slipping around the hook
when I pull it tight through the hair.  I was actually spinning antelope
hair, which I prefer to use for spinning.  The slipping is a definite
problem.  Any thoughts?  Solutions?

Larry Johnson
Springville,  Utah



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