Hmmm, 

When a Goddard caddis is tied you want the hair to spin.  If you're stacking a
wing for a Troth Elk Hair caddis, then Don's instructions are the way to do it.



Mark


--- Mike Bliss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Larry,
> 
> I am not the expert that Don is but I find that by putting a layer of thread
> down first the hair is much less likely to spin.
> 
> Mike
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "DonO" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2004 6:13 PM
> Subject: Re: [VFB] spinning deer hair
> 
> 
> > Larry,
> > First of all, take out the word 'spinning' from what you are trying to do
> on
> > this caddis.  Actually, if you are 'spinning' deer air, your results are
> > correct.  What you are trying to do with a Goddard caddis is to stack a
> hair
> > wing.  Since you don't want it to spin, don't let it spin. Pinch the
> trimmed
> > hair on top of the tie-down point, rolling the tips of your fingers back
> > just a little from the tie-down point.  Then tie a few snug (but not
> > tight)wraps of thread around the hair just in front of your fingers, one
> > right over the other, roll your fingers back toward the eye, and then pull
> > the thread tight as you keep the pinch going.  The thread will cinch tight
> > without rolling (spinning) the hair to the rear of the hook.  Bring the
> > thread under the flared head to the eye and whip off.  Trim the flared to
> > shape.
> >
> > It's easier demonstrated than explained.  It's also very similar in
> > technique to stacking winged wet flies.
> >
> > It's the opposite if you are tying a muddler.  For them you want to
> release
> > the hair to spin around the hook as you pull tension on the thread.  This
> is
> > 'spinning' and the results are what you want for a muddler.
> >
> > Let me know how it works out.
> >
> > DonO
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Larry Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2004 7:46 PM
> > Subject: [VFB] spinning deer hair
> >
> >
> > This question is for DonO, or any one on the list who has the experience
> of
> > spinning a lot of deer hair.  I was trying to tie some Goddard Caddis
> > tonight.  I seem to be unable to keep the hair from slipping around the
> hook
> > when I pull it tight through the hair.  I was actually spinning antelope
> > hair, which I prefer to use for spinning.  The slipping is a definite
> > problem.  Any thoughts?  Solutions?
> >
> > Larry Johnson
> > Springville,  Utah
> >
> >
> >
> 


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