Larry,

I am not the expert that Don is but I find that by putting a layer of thread
down first the hair is much less likely to spin.

Mike

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "DonO" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2004 6:13 PM
Subject: Re: [VFB] spinning deer hair


> Larry,
> First of all, take out the word 'spinning' from what you are trying to do
on
> this caddis.  Actually, if you are 'spinning' deer air, your results are
> correct.  What you are trying to do with a Goddard caddis is to stack a
hair
> wing.  Since you don't want it to spin, don't let it spin. Pinch the
trimmed
> hair on top of the tie-down point, rolling the tips of your fingers back
> just a little from the tie-down point.  Then tie a few snug (but not
> tight)wraps of thread around the hair just in front of your fingers, one
> right over the other, roll your fingers back toward the eye, and then pull
> the thread tight as you keep the pinch going.  The thread will cinch tight
> without rolling (spinning) the hair to the rear of the hook.  Bring the
> thread under the flared head to the eye and whip off.  Trim the flared to
> shape.
>
> It's easier demonstrated than explained.  It's also very similar in
> technique to stacking winged wet flies.
>
> It's the opposite if you are tying a muddler.  For them you want to
release
> the hair to spin around the hook as you pull tension on the thread.  This
is
> 'spinning' and the results are what you want for a muddler.
>
> Let me know how it works out.
>
> DonO
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Larry Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2004 7:46 PM
> Subject: [VFB] spinning deer hair
>
>
> This question is for DonO, or any one on the list who has the experience
of
> spinning a lot of deer hair.  I was trying to tie some Goddard Caddis
> tonight.  I seem to be unable to keep the hair from slipping around the
hook
> when I pull it tight through the hair.  I was actually spinning antelope
> hair, which I prefer to use for spinning.  The slipping is a definite
> problem.  Any thoughts?  Solutions?
>
> Larry Johnson
> Springville,  Utah
>
>
>

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