After re-reading that it appears that I called Casey shit.  I do not think
that Casey McKinnon is Shit.  I think that Galacticast is Shit.

On 12/15/06, Adam Quirk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Independent producers, the ones doing innovative things, creative things,
> with their "CONTENT", are being left behind in the billion dollar Youtube
> "new media" revolution.
>
> There are people doing very impressive, intelligent, timeless things.
> Many of which, idealistically, have no ulterior motives other than to create
> art.  I wrap Richard BF and several other amazing people into this category.
>
>
> They aren't selling me anything.
>
> But the people that seem to be glorified in this "Videoblogging" Yahoo!
> group are the ones that cater to the lowest common denominator.
>
> There was an inherent honesty involved when I joined this group.  Inherent
> because we were all just responding to each other's videos.  And I
> understand that we have outgrown that simplicity (it's become Youtube).
>
> I'd like to retain some of that structure if possible though.
>
> I'm not sure if it is.
>
> I can no longer sit idly by reading glowing reviews of Amanda Across
> America or Galacticast.
>
> I happen to think Casey is a very nice woman.  I just think what she and
> Amanda Congdon are trying to do to the personal media revolution is very
> contrary to what I think should be happening.
>
> Because they are both SHIT.
>
> I'm not saying you shouldn't post about either of these pieces of shit,
> just saying that I can no longer read this email list without responding
> appropriately to my conscience.
>
> Apologies to anyone offended.
>
> Ok,
> AQ
>
>
>
> On 12/15/06, sull <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >   well i will chime in *again*.
> >
> > i have nothing truly against network2.
> > they communicate here and seem like smart, decent people in this space.
> > of course, that is also in best business interests but hey.... you cant
> > be
> > too skeptical otherwise you would be... paranoid.
> >
> > i've claimed this before, but its important to repeat it especially when
> > a
> > thread like this invites it.
> >
> > vlogdir.com is OPT-IN. from day 1 in April 2005, the directory has been
> > a
> > community-driven directory.
> > I didnt populate it. YOU did. and I am proud of that because i think it
> > is
> > an interesting gauge of this vlog community.
> > I also think that it works mostly as a passive filter. Meaning, people
> > actually take a few moments to submit their videoblog and vodcast (rss
> > feed). That means that they think they have something good to share with
> > others. so they choose to take some measures to do that sharing.
> > vlogdir is always a top 10-20 result in google... so it helps somewhat.
> >
> > I also believe that vlogmap.org has worked this way for almost as long.
> >
> > though i totally love mefeedia.... they are not only opt-in and they
> > actually went through a period when they sucked in a boat-load of feeds
> > from
> > other services like blip, vimeo, vsocial, youtube etc. i call most of
> > those
> > feeds.... orphans.
> > but mefeedia is like the best overall vlog/feed aggregator i think and
> > they
> > do a tremendous amount of "right" stuff.... so, this is in no way to
> > traject
> > anything negative on mefeedia. they rock and when i can, i help them out
> > with feedback.
> >
> > fireant.tv is opt-in too but last i checked, they also add in their own
> > selections as well. the weird part is the fact that any feed you enter
> > in
> > the app, gets added to a database as part of a review queue.... and if
> > it
> > looks tasty, it will end up on the web directory. i think you can
> > opt-out
> > of that happening on mac version. but many feeds on fireant.tv are added
> > by
> > fireant themselves as well as the community (whether intended or not).
> >
> > the only time i truly think its nasty to add feeds without opt-in is
> > when
> > some site appears out of nowhere and sucks in feeds and wraps ads around
> > everything.
> > they are obviously just trying to rank high in search results and make a
> > few
> > bucks. no value back to the community and no value to the publishers.
> > its
> > cheap and its dirty. and it creates a bad reputation too.
> >
> > RSS... yes if you put out a feed, as a general rule you are syndicating
> > your
> > content to anyone on the web. Preferably, you want that content grabbed
> > by
> > an audience, not by random aggregator sites. But you also realize that
> > some
> > of the reputable aggregator sites actually do help you gain exposure and
> > get
> > traffic and distribute your media. More people can subscribe to you. It
> > can be a very good thing if you actually want to spread your media.
> > But you should respect the aggregator and if you dont, you should be
> > able to
> > tell them to remove your content. and they should respond asap.
> >
> > network2 seems like they are trying to add value to the community. i
> > think
> > they might succeed. we'll see.
> >
> > vlogdir.com... well.... the project was one of the originals to come out
> > of
> > this community.... and its in auto-pilot. it still serves and represents
> > the vlogosphere.... but i have not personally focused on evolving the
> > project. after all, it is what it is. what else can it be? i promote
> > vlogs that i like a lot... on the site and elsewhere. and every once in
> > a
> > while i need to delete some vietnam tourism site etc but for the most
> > part,
> > the directory has been problem free. thats a success story. to me at
> > least.
> >
> > maybe in 2007, i will carve a little time out to improve the site.
> >
> > in mean time, make sure any agg-newcomers work like mefeedia, vlogdir,
> > fireant, vlogmap, blip..... the originals.... who give full attribution
> > and
> > add value to the community. oh, i suppose network2 as well ;)
> >
> > sull
> >
> > On 12/14/06, Markus Sandy <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <markus.sandy%40mac.com>>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > i think i see a difference
> > >
> > > aren't fireant and mefeedia "opt-in" ?
> > >
> > > also, i don't think they *feature* sites from people who wish
> > otherwise
> > >
> > > On Dec 14, 2006, at 1:32 PM, Heath wrote:
> > >
> > > > I don't see what you are doing as any different than Fireant, or
> > > > MeFeedia, etc. You are providing a way to view video on the web,
> > > > vlogs, etc.....at least you are providing link backs and other
> > > > things, there are plenty of sites around that just "take" your feed
> > > > and you would never know it. Ran across a few of those, now THAT
> > > > bothers me, just taking, but I don't see what you are doing
> > > > as "wrong"..... IMO you have been honest and above board, so no
> > > > worries on my end..
> > > >
> > > > Heath
> > > > http://batmangeek7.blogspot.com
> > > >
> > > > --- In 
> > > > videoblogging@yahoogroups.com<videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com><videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com>,
> > > "[chrisbrogan.com]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > wrote:
> > >
> > > ---
> > > Markus Sandy
> > > http://feeds.feedburner.com/havemoneywillvlog
> > > http://feeds.feedburner.com/apperceptions
> > > http://feeds.feedburner.com/digitaldojo
> > > http://feeds.feedburner.com/spinflow
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > --
> > Sull
> > http://vlogdir.com (a project)
> > http://SpreadTheMedia.org (my blog)
> > http://interdigitate.com (otherly)
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >  
> >
>
>


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