Actually, you can hate the work and like the creator of said work. You dont hate your new puppy for taking a piss on the floor. You love your puppy. You just dont like the behavior.
I see nothing wrong with criticism. Be it harsh or mean spirited. Movie critics do it every day. If one is going to create something and then release it into the wild for anyone to form an opinion or write a critique, that person had better be ready to have the proverbial shit hit the fan and it blown in their face. If you don't want criticism, don't make anything and then release it for public scrutiny. David http://www.davidhowellstudios.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Heath" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > How can you seperate the two? You are calling her work "shit", then > IMO you are calling her the same thing. And one more > thing "Apoligies to anyone offended"? That's a cop-out, you know you > will offend some people, the statement is meant to offend, because > you used strong words to invoke a feeling......you could have just > said that you don't like it, but to use that word in the context that > you used it....it seems unduly harsh and mean spirited and > offensive... > > Heath > http://batmangeek7.blogspot.com > > > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Adam Quirk" <bullemhead@> > wrote: > > > > After re-reading that it appears that I called Casey shit. I do > not think > > that Casey McKinnon is Shit. I think that Galacticast is Shit. > > > > On 12/15/06, Adam Quirk <bullemhead@> wrote: > > > > > > Independent producers, the ones doing innovative things, creative > things, > > > with their "CONTENT", are being left behind in the billion dollar > Youtube > > > "new media" revolution. > > > > > > There are people doing very impressive, intelligent, timeless > things. > > > Many of which, idealistically, have no ulterior motives other > than to create > > > art. I wrap Richard BF and several other amazing people into > this category. > > > > > > > > > They aren't selling me anything. > > > > > > But the people that seem to be glorified in this "Videoblogging" > Yahoo! > > > group are the ones that cater to the lowest common denominator. > > > > > > There was an inherent honesty involved when I joined this group. > Inherent > > > because we were all just responding to each other's videos. And I > > > understand that we have outgrown that simplicity (it's become > Youtube). > > > > > > I'd like to retain some of that structure if possible though. > > > > > > I'm not sure if it is. > > > > > > I can no longer sit idly by reading glowing reviews of Amanda > Across > > > America or Galacticast. > > > > > > I happen to think Casey is a very nice woman. I just think what > she and > > > Amanda Congdon are trying to do to the personal media revolution > is very > > > contrary to what I think should be happening. > > > > > > Because they are both SHIT. > > > > > > I'm not saying you shouldn't post about either of these pieces of > shit, > > > just saying that I can no longer read this email list without > responding > > > appropriately to my conscience. > > > > > > Apologies to anyone offended. > > > > > > Ok, > > > AQ > > > > > > > > > > > > On 12/15/06, sull <sulleleven@> wrote: > > > > > > > > well i will chime in *again*. > > > > > > > > i have nothing truly against network2. > > > > they communicate here and seem like smart, decent people in > this space. > > > > of course, that is also in best business interests but hey.... > you cant > > > > be > > > > too skeptical otherwise you would be... paranoid. > > > > > > > > i've claimed this before, but its important to repeat it > especially when > > > > a > > > > thread like this invites it. > > > > > > > > vlogdir.com is OPT-IN. from day 1 in April 2005, the directory > has been > > > > a > > > > community-driven directory. > > > > I didnt populate it. YOU did. and I am proud of that because i > think it > > > > is > > > > an interesting gauge of this vlog community. > > > > I also think that it works mostly as a passive filter. Meaning, > people > > > > actually take a few moments to submit their videoblog and > vodcast (rss > > > > feed). That means that they think they have something good to > share with > > > > others. so they choose to take some measures to do that sharing. > > > > vlogdir is always a top 10-20 result in google... so it helps > somewhat. > > > > > > > > I also believe that vlogmap.org has worked this way for almost > as long. > > > > > > > > though i totally love mefeedia.... they are not only opt-in and > they > > > > actually went through a period when they sucked in a boat-load > of feeds > > > > from > > > > other services like blip, vimeo, vsocial, youtube etc. i call > most of > > > > those > > > > feeds.... orphans. > > > > but mefeedia is like the best overall vlog/feed aggregator i > think and > > > > they > > > > do a tremendous amount of "right" stuff.... so, this is in no > way to > > > > traject > > > > anything negative on mefeedia. they rock and when i can, i help > them out > > > > with feedback. > > > > > > > > fireant.tv is opt-in too but last i checked, they also add in > their own > > > > selections as well. the weird part is the fact that any feed > you enter > > > > in > > > > the app, gets added to a database as part of a review queue.... > and if > > > > it > > > > looks tasty, it will end up on the web directory. i think you > can > > > > opt-out > > > > of that happening on mac version. but many feeds on fireant.tv > are added > > > > by > > > > fireant themselves as well as the community (whether intended > or not). > > > > > > > > the only time i truly think its nasty to add feeds without opt- > in is > > > > when > > > > some site appears out of nowhere and sucks in feeds and wraps > ads around > > > > everything. > > > > they are obviously just trying to rank high in search results > and make a > > > > few > > > > bucks. no value back to the community and no value to the > publishers. > > > > its > > > > cheap and its dirty. and it creates a bad reputation too. > > > > > > > > RSS... yes if you put out a feed, as a general rule you are > syndicating > > > > your > > > > content to anyone on the web. Preferably, you want that content > grabbed > > > > by > > > > an audience, not by random aggregator sites. But you also > realize that > > > > some > > > > of the reputable aggregator sites actually do help you gain > exposure and > > > > get > > > > traffic and distribute your media. More people can subscribe to > you. It > > > > can be a very good thing if you actually want to spread your > media. > > > > But you should respect the aggregator and if you dont, you > should be > > > > able to > > > > tell them to remove your content. and they should respond asap. > > > > > > > > network2 seems like they are trying to add value to the > community. i > > > > think > > > > they might succeed. we'll see. > > > > > > > > vlogdir.com... well.... the project was one of the originals to > come out > > > > of > > > > this community.... and its in auto-pilot. it still serves and > represents > > > > the vlogosphere.... but i have not personally focused on > evolving the > > > > project. after all, it is what it is. what else can it be? i > promote > > > > vlogs that i like a lot... on the site and elsewhere. and every > once in > > > > a > > > > while i need to delete some vietnam tourism site etc but for > the most > > > > part, > > > > the directory has been problem free. thats a success story. to > me at > > > > least. > > > > > > > > maybe in 2007, i will carve a little time out to improve the > site. > > > > > > > > in mean time, make sure any agg-newcomers work like mefeedia, > vlogdir, > > > > fireant, vlogmap, blip..... the originals.... who give full > attribution > > > > and > > > > add value to the community. oh, i suppose network2 as well ;) > > > > > > > > sull > > > > > > > > On 12/14/06, Markus Sandy <markus.sandy@ <markus.sandy% > 40mac.com>> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > i think i see a difference > > > > > > > > > > aren't fireant and mefeedia "opt-in" ? > > > > > > > > > > also, i don't think they *feature* sites from people who wish > > > > otherwise > > > > > > > > > > On Dec 14, 2006, at 1:32 PM, Heath wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > I don't see what you are doing as any different than > Fireant, or > > > > > > MeFeedia, etc. You are providing a way to view video on the > web, > > > > > > vlogs, etc.....at least you are providing link backs and > other > > > > > > things, there are plenty of sites around that just "take" > your feed > > > > > > and you would never know it. Ran across a few of those, now > THAT > > > > > > bothers me, just taking, but I don't see what you are doing > > > > > > as "wrong"..... IMO you have been honest and above board, > so no > > > > > > worries on my end.. > > > > > > > > > > > > Heath > > > > > > http://batmangeek7.blogspot.com > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com<videoblogging% > 40yahoogroups.com><videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com>, > > > > > "[chrisbrogan.com]" <group@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > --- > > > > > Markus Sandy > > > > > http://feeds.feedburner.com/havemoneywillvlog > > > > > http://feeds.feedburner.com/apperceptions > > > > > http://feeds.feedburner.com/digitaldojo > > > > > http://feeds.feedburner.com/spinflow > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Sull > > > > http://vlogdir.com (a project) > > > > http://SpreadTheMedia.org (my blog) > > > > http://interdigitate.com (otherly) > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > >
