I have to assume most Americans are as disgusted by this thread as I am. Having seen and heard and been influenced by European ideas of "speech laws", it fucking sickens me to see discussion of banning or censoring certain points of view.
I don't give a fuck if John McCain says that liberal democrats are donkey-fucking satanists and that we as a people have to rise up against them to save our culture. He's allowed to say whatever the fuck he wants. Thank god. So-called "hate speech" laws in Europe are one of the many reasons I'll never move there. As flawed as my government is, I know for a fact, as predicated in the goddamned constitution that I live under, that I can say whatever the fuck I want about whomever the fuck I want, whenever, wherever, and to whomever I want. I only wish other countries had these rights. On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 6:04 PM, Richard (Show) Hall < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > First of all, Michael is no troll. > > I was very fortunate to meet him at vlog europe in Italy, and he's one of > the cleverest, funniest, and most entertaining people I've ever met. > > As for my opinion, I would have to disagree with my friend, in that I > believe blip should allow the videos - I don't think they should allow all > videos, but ones supporting McCain sure (although I haven't actually seen > them). However, I would also have to agree with all of Michael's McCain > adjectives, including thug. > > ... Richard (also not a troll, maybe an orc, but never a troll) > > p.s. I'm enjoying the thread, but I'm sick, and off my medicine. > > On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 7:34 PM, Ron Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I wonder how many McCain points this piece was worth? > > > > I smell troll... > > > > I'll be holding my nose, voting for the least likely to wipe their > > ass with the constitution. > > peace, > > Ron > > > > > > On Oct 16, 2008, at 7:27 PM, Gena wrote: > > > > > Michael, I am probably going to kick myself and have others do it for > > > me for keeping this thread alive but I have to comment on what you > > > have presented. > > > > > > 1. With extremely limited exceptions, freedom of speech is extended to > > > all Americans. Especially the ones I disagree with. It is not > > > debatable. It is, to me, my true claim as an American citizen. I dont' > > > have to like it another point of view. I am equally free to present > > > information that disputes and or supports that point of view. I don't > > > care if he got a Pro account or is trying to save some moolah, he has > > > the right to present his message. > > > > > > And for the record, I am a straight-up Moonbat liberal leaning person > > > who may have minor threads of libertarianism when it comes to giving > > > money to for-profit corporations that f*cked themselves. > > > > > > 2. Blip.tv is a business. If the campaign paid for pro level usage I > > > would not expect them to leave cash money on the table. Not in these > > > times when other video web hosting & distribution companies are going > > > dark. > > > > > > 3. There is passion. There is intolerance. It is getting hard to tell > > > them apart. I understand what is being invoked by this extraordinary > > > time in American history. Lies that are being presented as truth. > > > Racism as a badge of honor. Sexism up the ying-yang and you can now > > > pick multiple flavors of identity politics. > > > > > > One of the current gifts of vlogging now is to tell your truth and > > > show your proof of how you can to your thoughts. Let me know when you > > > posted that video, I'll watch. > > > > > > In this community you have to respect that not everyone is going to > > > share your feelings. That is ok. Understand the context of the > > > feedback. Freedom of speech, the right a business to choose who they > > > do business with and a politician's right to use media to reach a > > > target audience. Oh, and my equal right to challenge what I am > > > being told. > > > > > > Peace and power to the (vlogging) people, > > > > > > Gena > > > http://outonthestoop.blogspot.com > > > > > > --- In [email protected] <videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com > >, > > "Michael Schaap" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > It may sound silly but I am deeply disappointed in Blip.tv for > > > allowing the McCain campaign > > > > to use Blip's services. For crying out loud: All the smear & filth > > > running from Blip networks... > > > > Damn you Blip for this, I think it's a bloody shame! > > > > > > > > http://johnmccain.blip.tv > > > > > > > > as you can see, they're running Blip's player even on the front page > > > of http://www.johnmccain.com/ > > > > > > > > Michael > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > -- > Richard (Show) Hall > http://richardshow.org > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
