Clarified. Thanks. I know you're a proponent of free speech. Hope this 3am rant didn't seem to be coming down on you in particular. Just got home from a bar where I was talking with some friends about our constitution and how it's been pillaged over the past 50 years, read this thread, and got really upset.
On Sat, Oct 18, 2008 at 3:44 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Just to be clear: I don't necessarily endorse EU-style hate speech laws. > However, I do endorse discussing them. > -----Original Message----- > From: "Adam Quirk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2008 03:41:05 > To: <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: McCain on Blip = a Shame > > > I have to assume most Americans are as disgusted by this thread as I am. > Having seen and heard and been influenced by European ideas of "speech > laws", it fucking sickens me to see discussion of banning or censoring > certain points of view. > > I don't give a fuck if John McCain says that liberal democrats are > donkey-fucking satanists and that we as a people have to rise up against > them to save our culture. > > He's allowed to say whatever the fuck he wants. Thank god. > > So-called "hate speech" laws in Europe are one of the many reasons I'll > never move there. > > As flawed as my government is, I know for a fact, as predicated in the > goddamned constitution that I live under, that I can say whatever the fuck > I > want about whomever the fuck I want, whenever, wherever, and to whomever I > want. I only wish other countries had these rights. > > On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 6:04 PM, Richard (Show) Hall < > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > First of all, Michael is no troll. > > > > I was very fortunate to meet him at vlog europe in Italy, and he's one of > > the cleverest, funniest, and most entertaining people I've ever met. > > > > As for my opinion, I would have to disagree with my friend, in that I > > believe blip should allow the videos - I don't think they should allow > all > > videos, but ones supporting McCain sure (although I haven't actually seen > > them). However, I would also have to agree with all of Michael's McCain > > adjectives, including thug. > > > > ... Richard (also not a troll, maybe an orc, but never a troll) > > > > p.s. I'm enjoying the thread, but I'm sick, and off my medicine. > > > > On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 7:34 PM, Ron Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > I wonder how many McCain points this piece was worth? > > > > > > I smell troll... > > > > > > I'll be holding my nose, voting for the least likely to wipe their > > > ass with the constitution. > > > peace, > > > Ron > > > > > > > > > On Oct 16, 2008, at 7:27 PM, Gena wrote: > > > > > > > Michael, I am probably going to kick myself and have others do it for > > > > me for keeping this thread alive but I have to comment on what you > > > > have presented. > > > > > > > > 1. With extremely limited exceptions, freedom of speech is extended > to > > > > all Americans. Especially the ones I disagree with. It is not > > > > debatable. It is, to me, my true claim as an American citizen. I > dont' > > > > have to like it another point of view. I am equally free to present > > > > information that disputes and or supports that point of view. I don't > > > > care if he got a Pro account or is trying to save some moolah, he has > > > > the right to present his message. > > > > > > > > And for the record, I am a straight-up Moonbat liberal leaning person > > > > who may have minor threads of libertarianism when it comes to giving > > > > money to for-profit corporations that f*cked themselves. > > > > > > > > 2. Blip.tv is a business. If the campaign paid for pro level usage I > > > > would not expect them to leave cash money on the table. Not in these > > > > times when other video web hosting & distribution companies are going > > > > dark. > > > > > > > > 3. There is passion. There is intolerance. It is getting hard to tell > > > > them apart. I understand what is being invoked by this extraordinary > > > > time in American history. Lies that are being presented as truth. > > > > Racism as a badge of honor. Sexism up the ying-yang and you can now > > > > pick multiple flavors of identity politics. > > > > > > > > One of the current gifts of vlogging now is to tell your truth and > > > > show your proof of how you can to your thoughts. Let me know when you > > > > posted that video, I'll watch. > > > > > > > > In this community you have to respect that not everyone is going to > > > > share your feelings. That is ok. Understand the context of the > > > > feedback. Freedom of speech, the right a business to choose who they > > > > do business with and a politician's right to use media to reach a > > > > target audience. Oh, and my equal right to challenge what I am > > > > being told. > > > > > > > > Peace and power to the (vlogging) people, > > > > > > > > Gena > > > > http://outonthestoop.blogspot.com > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected] <videoblogging% > 40yahoogroups.com > > >, > > > "Michael Schaap" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > It may sound silly but I am deeply disappointed in Blip.tv for > > > > allowing the McCain campaign > > > > > to use Blip's services. For crying out loud: All the smear & filth > > > > running from Blip networks... > > > > > Damn you Blip for this, I think it's a bloody shame! > > > > > > > > > > http://johnmccain.blip.tv > > > > > > > > > > as you can see, they're running Blip's player even on the front > page > > > > of http://www.johnmccain.com/ > > > > > > > > > > Michael > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Richard (Show) Hall > > http://richardshow.org > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
