On Jun 13, 2012, at 10:33 AM, Tim Gray wrote: > On Jun 13, 2012 at 10:00 AM -0400, Eric Weir wrote: >> Thanks for the clarification, Tim. I'm attaching a screenshot of my ~\.vim >> folders with all the folders open. It does not appear to me that I have the >> executable. All I see are remnants of plugins. [Including something that I >> suspect is the source of apparent conflicts regarding the current >> installation of a plugin in vim-addon-manager.]
> The screenshot didn't come through. Unless I'm mistaken, vim-addon-manager > should be installing plugins in your ~/.vim folder. Even though you are > using MacVim. I use MacVim and regular vim (on my Mac and Linux) and they > all share the same .vimrc and .vim folder. Thanks again, Tim. Sorry about the screenshot. I would've followed up when I realized it, but the description says it all. Only remnants of plugins from when I was installing them manually. You can tweak where vim-addon-manager installs plugins---and is itself installed. I have mine going into ~\. >> Until now I'd been under the impression that MacVim was just a front end >> that uses the files in the ~\.vim folder. Inspecting the contents of the >> MacVim package led me to suspect that in fact the vim files, executables and >> all, are in it. That the folders in ~\vim are superfluous. > > That impression is incorrect. The vim executable on Mac can be store > anywhere as long as you call it correctly.. The vim that comes package with > OS X lives in /usr/bin/vim. If you install your own copy of the command line > version, it probably lives at /usr/local/bin/vim. MacVim lives in > /Applications. I don't know if you know this or not, but GUI applications in > OS X are actually folders. Inside of the MacVim app folder is an honest to > god, regular old command line version of vim. It's here: > /Applications/MacVim.app/Contents/MacOS/Vim. You can call that from the > command line. I do it everyday, and am doing it to write this email. That's > the executable or binary or application. Yes, it was taking a closer look at the MacVim package than had previously that led me to ask whether I needed a separate installation. It appears I don't. In any case I don't have it. It's not in \usr\local\bin. > Now that we got that out of the way, we can move onto the second point. Vim > uses two (possibly more?) sets of configuration files and plugins. The first > set is usually bundled with the program. For the command line version, this > might be /usr/local/share/vim/vim73/, or /usr/share/vim/vim73, etc. For > MacVim, it's /Applications/MacVim.app/Contents/Resources/vim/runtime. These > files are not the same as the ones that live in ~/.vim. The second set of > configuration files/plugins are your config files. The per-user files. > These are stored in ~, and include .vimrc and your .vim folder. MacVim and > the command line versions of vim should both refer to these files when you > use those programs. Again, it was looking at that runtime folder that made me realize there was more to vim than I was seeing in my ~\.vim folder. > To be explicit, the command line version of vim never lives in ~/.vim. > MacVim is not a 'front end' for ~/.vim, and neither is CLI vim. ~/.vim is > not superfluous for MacVim. I take it, reasons for running the command line version aside, that would not be true if all my plugins are installed by vim-addon-manager? > Again, unless vim-addon-manager is doing something I'm not aware of, it's > probably installing your plugins in the .vim folder. Many plugin managers > use ~/.vim/bundle, but it looks like vim-addon-manager defaults to > ~/.vim/vim-addons. Yes, that's the default. But you can change it, and I have. And thanks again for the detailed explanations. Sincerely, ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Eric Weir Decatur, GA eew...@bellsouth.net "What is man without the beasts? If all the beasts were gone, men would die from a great loneliness of spirit." - Chief Seattle -- You received this message from the "vim_mac" maillist. Do not top-post! Type your reply below the text you are replying to. For more information, visit http://www.vim.org/maillist.php
