Chuck, was it like this... http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0002STSGC
Sent from my iPod On Mar 29, 2013, at 5:12 AM, Chuck Kuecker <[email protected]> wrote: > I got a spring compressor that hooks on from the outside at NAPA years ago. > Turn the knob and draw hooks up against a cap with a hole in it that rests on > the retainer. > > Chuck Kuecker > > On 3/28/2013 6:36 PM, Dean Johnson wrote: >> Also, where would I be likely to find a valve spring compressor tool to use >> with heads on engine, engine in car. I can find pictures but none to buy, >> borrow, or steal. >> On Mar 28, 2013 6:32 PM, "John Sroka" <[email protected]> wrote: >>> Hey Dean. Wow, that is really strange. Any chance someone ‘liberated’ the >>> keepers from that valve sometime in the 4 years after the transmission >>> failed? Here is a thread from thesamba about the air compressor tool: >>> http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=466412 >>> >>> >>> >>> Can’t wait to hear the outcome of this. >>> >>> >>> >>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >>> Behalf Of Dean Johnson >>> Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2013 3:24 PM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: [vintagvw] Valve spring retainer keepers. gone missing? >>> >>> >>> >>> Chuck, >>> Then engine wasn't making any rattling before I stopped driving it. I only >>> stopped because I lost 4th gear (at least) while driving on the highway. >>> So if the valve isn't bent, and the valve stem is in good shape I can >>> replace the keepers in place. That would be a miracle. I'll see if I can >>> gather the parts for an 'air hold'. I have a compression gauge perhaps the >>> hose from that will work. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Dean >>> >>> On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 6:14 PM, Chuck Kuecker <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> If the valve can be pulled back level with the other valves, it's unlikely >>> it is bent. >>> >>> If you can get your hands on an "air hold" - an air fitting that screws >>> into the spark plug hole and uses air pressure to hold the valves closed - >>> you can compress the spring and replace the keepers without tearing the >>> engine apart. You can make one with an old spark plug and a pipe nipple and >>> a little welding or soldering - or even JB Weld. >>> >>> Turn the engine over so the valves are closed before >>> applying pressure - have the car in gear so the motor can't turn over. If >>> there's no hissing from the carb or muffler, the valve is still seating >>> correctly. If not, it's probably bent. >>> >>> Was the engine making any rattling noises? >>> >>> Chuck Kuecker >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 3/28/2013 4:59 PM, Dean Johnson wrote: >>> >>> I've gone to the trouble of replacing my transaxel after having the bug off >>> the road for four years. I was commuting daily >>> for about a year before the tranny failed. (70 mi round trip) >>> So imagine my surprise to discover when adjusting the valves that one of my >>> valve stems is below the valve spring retainer. Its suppose to stick above >>> that so the rocker foot can push on it. This seems really bad. Doesn't this >>> mean my valve has been getting clobbered by the >>> piston? Doesn't this mean I have to pull the head and have it rebuilt, if >>> possible, or replaced. >>> Or is this the one time when something seems bad but really isn't? >>> I suppose I could take off the rocker arm to see if the valve stem is ok, >>> if the valve spring retainer keepers are anywhere to be >>> seen. I don't really have much more money or time to throw at this. >>> Please send me a miracle. >>> >>> Oh, Its a '71 Super Beetle with about 30,000 miles on an 1915 cc engine >>> rebuilt by Strictly Foreign (circa 2000). 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