Some of us responding to this thread have obligations to keep things quiet but what I think we are saying is that the standard is very high, the bar that has been reached in accessibility is awesome and we are working on any and all problems. If you said it then its being addressed. Who knows you might just get a OS upgrade and that problem is eradicated. Hold on to your britches. On Jun 12, 2012, at 10:08 PM, James Mannion <[email protected]> wrote:
> Definitely Apple provides the best accessibility. That is much > appreciated for sure and I have mentioned that. I still stand by it. > There is no other platform of the alternatives that I am aware of > providing acceptible accessibility imo. Google does not. Windows > obviously does not. Rim does not and who cares. Also in my opinion, in > general, Apple often doesn't appear to have a lot of concern about > bugs. The statement thankfully is not limited at all to accessibility. > I am going to try to stop adding to this thread. Obviously the feeling > is very contraversial and some seem to feel that because they have > provided great accessibility we are in turn required to humble > ourselves to have no complaints about anything at all no matter what > it is and no matter what about so far as it relates to Apple. I do not > agree that is a required response. I will repeat, yes I absolutely > appreciate and am absolutely thankful for the accessibility. Does that > require giving up any right to hold them to any standard or to wish to > for anything, no and the two do not conflict. > > On 6/12/12, Ricardo Walker <[email protected]> wrote: >> Oh boy. >> >> now, don't get me wrong but, just because issues that are personally >> effecting you, and haven't been addressed, doesn't mean they don't care. I >> mean really? In my opinion, care is a relative term here. They don't care >> as much as who exactly? Google? RIM? Microsoft? Samsung? HTC? All the >> companies making inaccessible touch panel appliances now a day? Of course, >> everyone is entitled to their feelings and opinions but, as far as IOS goes, >> I think Apple does a better job than all others in the same field in regards >> to a stable mobile OS and, accessibility. I think the proof is, all though >> you feel the way you do, I haven't heard you mention going to another >> platform. >> >> JMO. >> >> Ricardo Walker >> [email protected] >> Twitter:@apple2thecore >> www.appletothecore.info >> >> On Jun 11, 2012, at 9:43 PM, James Mannion <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Although I doubt they have been, we don't have an answer if anythign >>> has been fixed or further broken in 6 yet, right? Or are you stating >>> it based on someone's experience with the 6 beta? They would not >>> likely mention bug fixes in an event or they would make a general >>> statement at best. As I state often though and feel I have good reason >>> to, Apple does not care enough and seemingly not at all most of the >>> time about fixing anything other than jailbreak holes. They leave >>> major functionality problems in their system for 3 months, 6 months, a >>> year, for ever. They just do not care. I have expressed my extreme >>> disatisfaction with that attitude in feedback on their site where you >>> can leave feedback. I was constructive about what I apreciate and to >>> the point about what I do not. I have done it numerous times. I have >>> expressed what is appropriate to direct to accessibility. They have >>> too much of a fan club that will buy any explative thing with the logo >>> on it no matter anything else and they have 70 billion dollars. They >>> see no reason to care about product quality apparently. >>> >>> On 6/11/12, Chuck Dean <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> In the mean time, the bugs that came with 5.0 and were not corrected >>>> with >>>> 5.1 are still plaguing the iPhone while voice over is turned on. >>>> I would have rather heard about a fix of the current problems. >>>> >>>> We didn't make a big enough noise, so they can put us on the back >>>> burner. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Monday, June 11, 2012 5:29:33 PM UTC-7, Richard Turner wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Check the podcasts in iTunes. >>>>> >>>>> Hth, >>>>> Richard >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Jun 11, 2012, at 12:31 PM, Blinkin <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I am pissed. I was in the hospital getting a kidney stone removed and >>>>> missed the whole dam thing. >>>>>> Does anyone know where I can find it online to listen to new? >>>>>> Thanks! >>>>>> >>>>>> On Jun 11, 2012, at 12:30 PM, Vanish Chopra wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Apple's WW DC has just begun! In the very first 10 minutes Apple gave >>>>>>> its strong commitment to the visually challenged! The show still on >>>>>>> How ever I had to share this moment with you all! 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