And I think it is important to actually make this statement as well in
the context here. My response to your comment below is to smile and
say thank you and I mean that sincerely.

On 6/12/12, VaShaun Jones <[email protected]> wrote:
> Some of us responding to this thread have obligations to keep things quiet
> but what I think we are saying is that the standard is very high, the bar
> that has been reached in accessibility is awesome and we are working on any
> and all problems. If you said it then its being addressed. Who knows you
> might just get a OS upgrade and that problem is eradicated. Hold on to your
> britches.
> On Jun 12, 2012, at 10:08 PM, James Mannion <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Definitely Apple provides the best accessibility. That is much
>> appreciated for sure and I have mentioned that. I still stand by it.
>> There is no other platform of the alternatives that I am aware of
>> providing acceptible accessibility imo. Google does not. Windows
>> obviously does not. Rim does not and who cares. Also in my opinion, in
>> general, Apple often doesn't appear to have a lot of concern about
>> bugs. The statement thankfully is not limited at all to accessibility.
>> I am going to try to stop adding to this thread. Obviously the feeling
>> is very contraversial and some seem to feel that because they have
>> provided great accessibility we are in turn required to humble
>> ourselves to have no complaints about anything at all no matter what
>> it is and no matter what about so far as it relates to Apple. I do not
>> agree that is a required response. I will repeat, yes I absolutely
>> appreciate and am absolutely thankful for the accessibility. Does that
>> require giving up any right to hold them to any standard or to wish to
>> for anything, no and the two do not conflict.
>>
>> On 6/12/12, Ricardo Walker <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Oh boy.
>>>
>>> now, don't get me wrong but, just because issues that are personally
>>> effecting you, and haven't been addressed, doesn't mean they don't care.
>>> I
>>> mean really?  In my opinion, care is a relative term here.  They don't
>>> care
>>> as much as who exactly?  Google? RIM? Microsoft? Samsung?  HTC? All the
>>> companies making inaccessible touch panel appliances now a day?  Of
>>> course,
>>> everyone is entitled to their feelings and opinions but, as far as IOS
>>> goes,
>>> I think Apple does a better job than all others in the same field in
>>> regards
>>> to a stable mobile OS and, accessibility.  I think the proof is, all
>>> though
>>> you feel the way you do, I haven't heard you mention going to another
>>> platform.
>>>
>>> JMO.
>>>
>>> Ricardo Walker
>>> [email protected]
>>> Twitter:@apple2thecore
>>> www.appletothecore.info
>>>
>>> On Jun 11, 2012, at 9:43 PM, James Mannion <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Although I doubt they have been, we don't have an answer if anythign
>>>> has been fixed or further broken in 6 yet, right? Or are you stating
>>>> it based on someone's experience with the 6 beta? They would not
>>>> likely mention bug fixes in an event or they would make a general
>>>> statement at best. As I state often though and feel I have good reason
>>>> to, Apple does not care enough and seemingly not at all most of the
>>>> time about fixing anything other than jailbreak holes. They leave
>>>> major functionality problems in their system for 3 months, 6 months, a
>>>> year, for ever. They just do not care. I have expressed my extreme
>>>> disatisfaction with that attitude in feedback on their site where you
>>>> can leave feedback. I was constructive about what I apreciate and to
>>>> the point about what I do not. I have done it numerous times. I have
>>>> expressed what is appropriate to direct to accessibility. They have
>>>> too much of a fan club that will buy any explative thing with the logo
>>>> on it no matter anything else and they have 70 billion dollars. They
>>>> see no reason to care about product quality apparently.
>>>>
>>>> On 6/11/12, Chuck Dean <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> In the mean time, the bugs that came with 5.0 and were not corrected
>>>>> with
>>>>> 5.1 are still plaguing the iPhone while voice over is turned on.
>>>>> I would have rather heard about a fix of the current problems.
>>>>>
>>>>> We didn't make a big enough noise, so they can put us on the back
>>>>> burner.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Monday, June 11, 2012 5:29:33 PM UTC-7, Richard Turner wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Check the podcasts in iTunes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hth,
>>>>>> Richard
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jun 11, 2012, at 12:31 PM, Blinkin <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am pissed. I was in the hospital getting a kidney stone removed
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>> missed the whole dam thing.
>>>>>>>  Does anyone know where I can find it online to listen to new?
>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Jun 11, 2012, at 12:30 PM, Vanish Chopra wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Apple's WW DC has just begun! In the very first 10 minutes Apple
>>>>>>>> gave
>>>>>>>> its strong commitment to the visually challenged! The show still
>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>> How ever I had to share this moment with you all! Best of luck!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Voice Converted to Text and Sent by my iPhone.
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