Hi Rich, if Apple could work their magic to give us a haptic way to tell the time with Apple Watch, that would indeed be very cool. Jonathan Mosen Mosen Consulting Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training http://Mosen.org
> On 11/12/2015, at 9:01 AM, Paul Richard McGann <rkmcg...@comcast.net> wrote: > > scott and jonathan, > > I remember seeing an article of usa today in my iphone. it is not ready until > the fall of 2016. it says something. > > somehow, I would like to see apple watch 2 being more accessible with braille > dddddddddddddddddddiay.I if we keep them posted (tapping on their sers) and > they should not forget about brialle acces > > scott, I did send suggestionnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn accessibility team to wrk on > vibration as I said some ppppppppppppppppppppodon't have good feelings, and I > encourage to increase trength volume to makmore feelings. few ties I notice > very soft ivationnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn can be esmissed out. > > third, I kee iphone watch more wateeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeepof. > > scott, remember deafblind are not octopuses. we only have two hands, and we > nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnneomething to make eaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaio ke phone > ssssssssssssssssssssstingup for scanning. > > sincerely, > ricj > > > -----Original Message----- From: Scott Davert > Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2015 2:08 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: iPhone seven rumors > > Hello Jonathan. > I cannot speak on behalf of AppleVis, as I'm not the site owner. That > said, I can tell you that AppleVis has not traditionally taken a > stance on any sort of rumors, since they're only that. The Campaign of > the Month was designed to take in to account accessibility issues with > apps and such, but they were things that have already happened, not > based on a rumor that could come true this year, next year, or never. > Do I think this will eventually happen? Yes I do. Do I think that we > can stop a multi-million dollar corporation which has obviously been > conceiving of this for years? No I do not. It's certainly good to > email the Accessibility Team at Apple to share your concerns, as I've > already done, and I'm sure you have. > Finally, AppleVis is a community driven website, which means you have > the option of posting your thoughts to the forum. If AppleVis is > failing in its duty, as you say, why not fix that by starting the > discussion yourself? You can also contact > supp...@applevis.com > with any specific ideas like possibly reposting your blog without any > advertising if you feel it's worth doing. Even a forum topic could > help spread awareness if that's not something David, the site owner, > will go for. > > Thanks for reading, > Scott > > On 12/10/15, Jonathan Mosen <jmo...@mosen.org> wrote: >> Hi Scott, when it comes to Apple rumours, it's important to look at their >> source, and whether they have a track record of accuracy. We're seeing >> credible sources suggesting that Apple may be holding an event in March to >> launch the Apple Watch 2. Since the iPhone 6C if it eventuates would be >> using the same chips that are already being produced for iPhone 6s and 6s >> Plus, it's not beyond the realms of possibility that it will be launched >> then. If there is to be an iPhone 6c, Apple won't want it overshadowing the >> iPhone 7 announcements. Those phones will of course be the current screen >> sizes. >> As for the headphone jack issue and your comment that people are being bent >> out of shape about it, again it's important to consider how credible the >> source is. We know that Apple has been thinking about the issue because they >> patented their own proprietary headphone jack, and then they introduced >> specs for made for iPhone headphones that use the Lightning port. As you >> say, there is a pair of headphones with a Lightning connector in the Apple >> Store now. for 800 bucks. And the rumour has been deemed credible enough to >> have been commented on extensively by many respected technology news sites, >> including Cult of Mac, 9 to 5 Mac, Apple Insider, Beta News, CNet, and >> Mashable. Even CBS has picked it up. >> But there is one site remaining curiously and ominously silent. What I find >> deeply disappointing is that AppleVis has not said a thing about a topic >> which could have an enormous impact on the way blind people use their >> iPhones. It's not just hearing impaired people who will take a hit, but >> anyone who wants to use their iPhone with minimal latency and energy >> consumption, who appreciate being able to charge their phones while they >> also enjoy the privacy that the headphone jack affords. There is an >> important and unique use case here that Apple need to be made aware of >> before it's too late, and for AppleVis to remain silent when many other >> Apple blogs are speaking out is a gross dereliction of duty in my opinion. >> Why isn't this an AppleVis campaign of the month? Staying silent on such an >> important issue, when AppleVis could at least be encouraging users to >> complete the feedback form, is ostrich-like in the extreme. I think it's >> time users held AppleVis to account for its silence on this. >> Jonathan Mosen >> Mosen Consulting >> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training >> http://Mosen.org >> >>> On 11/12/2015, at 3:06 AM, Scott Davert <scottslistm...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> February? I doubt that. When was the last time an iPhone wasn't >>> released in the fall? >>> I think, like with the headphone rumor, getting all bent out of shape >>> is just not really going to help much. However, there could be more >>> reason for the headphone rumor to becoming closer to a reality since >>> Apple is now selling headphones with lightning connectors. SO while I >>> doubt it'll happen next year, it's certainly not out of the rehlm of >>> possibilities. I don't like the idea for a lot of reasons, one of them >>> being that, just like the 1 port Mac, which is stupid imho, this will >>> force me to carry around more crap if I need to use more than one port >>> at a time. It also means more stuff to charge, shorter battery life on >>> my phone, and the delay from VoiceOver. Maybe they'll just introduce >>> the lack of a headphone plug on the 6C, assuming that rumor is going >>> to come to pass, and see how it plays out. However, I'd say that the >>> 5C was not a success, so they may not bother. >>> >>> Scott >>> >>> On 12/9/15, Marie <scribbl...@comcast.net> wrote: >>>> Actually I would love a smaller phone and if that particular rumor is >>>> true I >>>> >>>> will be thinking very much about upgrading to the 7. I like a phone >>>> which >>>> fits into the pocket on cargo pants when shopping, etc. so the larger >>>> phones >>>> >>>> just don't fit. And the less space I have to search around the screen >>>> for >>>> things the faster and more efficient I am. JMT. >>>> Marie >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Rajmund >>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 9, 2015 9:30 AM >>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>> Subject: Re: iPhone seven rumors >>>> >>>> Hello, >>>> Yes, that was it. Glad we got it. :) >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: Christopher Chaltain <chalt...@gmail.com> >>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>> Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2015 12:28 pm >>>> Subject: Re: iPhone seven rumors >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Well, in your original post you said "Not just the size, but it does >>>>> contribute. Price, and quality also contributes", and I'm not sure what >>>>> you meant by this. At first I thought you meant that a smaller iPhone >>>>> would be cheaper and of less quality, but now I'm thinking you mean >>>>> that >>>>> size, quality and price figure into your decision in buying a new >>>>> phone. >>>>> >>>>> In your last post you said "not sure which part, you have taken" which >>>>> also confuses me a bit, but I'm guessing you're saying you're not sure >>>>> which part of your message I didn't understand. >>>>> >>>>> Either way, I think we're all good now. >>>>> >>>>> On 09/12/15 00:06, Rajmund wrote: >>>>>> Hello, >>>>>> If apple comes up with a smaller phone, I would want it. So not sure >>>>>> which part, you have taken as I'm worried about it. Clarify, please? >>>>>> >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>> From: Christopher Chaltain <chalt...@gmail.com> >>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>>>> Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2015 2:21 am >>>>>> Subject: Re: iPhone seven rumors >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> First, I think the bending issue was much to do about nothing. I'm >>>>>>> not >>>>>>> sure I understand the rest of your message, but a smaller iPhone >>>>>>> won't >>>>>>> mean a low budget iPhone. If Apple does come out with a smaller >>>>>>> iPhone, >>>>>>> it'll still be a high quality top of the line smart phone. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 08/12/15 08:03, Rajmund wrote: >>>>>>>> Hello, >>>>>>>> One of the reasons of me not getting a 6 is the size. Not just the >>>>>>>> size, but it does contribute. Price, and quality also contributes. >>>>>>>> And >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I'm worried of it bending. It may not, but I'm worried about that, >>>>>>>> as >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> well. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>> From: terrie arnold <terrieiph...@me.com> >>>>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>>>>>> Date: Tuesday, December 8, 2015 12:56 pm >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: iPhone seven rumors >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I have heard of them comming back out with a small iphone the >>>>>>>>> size of the 5s , as I have heard that this size has been >>>>>>>>> requested since the larger 6s came out. I heard this on a >>>>>>>>> tech >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> report on Fox and CNN >>>>>>>>> , so what do all of you think about this , would you get a >>>>>>>>> smaller phone , and thoes of you that are hanging on to the >>>>>>>>> 5s, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 4s and some of the 3gs >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> My thoughts for today >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Dec 8, 2015, at 12:33 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Rob from the Today in iOS Podcast made a few good points in his >>>>>>>>>> latest episode where he of course talked about this. Firstly, he >>>>>>>>>> mentioned that this rumour has not surfaced for the first time, I >>>>>>>>>> think it did also come up 2 years ago. Secondly, he mentioned that >>>>>>>>>> that the iPod Touch is almost 1 mm thinner than the 6S or 6S Plus >>>>>>>>>> and it still has a 3.5mm headphone jack. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] >>>>>>>>>> On >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Behalf Of Mary Otten >>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, December 7, 2015 11:07 AM >>>>>>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: iPhone seven rumors >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Well, I have said before and will say again that I think it is a >>>>>>>>>> stupid idea to trade off one millimeter of thickness for the >>>>>>>>>> headphone jack. I do not want an adapter. I do not want to pay for >>>>>>>>>> it, nor do I want to lose it, which is almost inevitable. And then >>>>>>>>>> I >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> would have to buy another one. I'm sure it won't be a two dollar >>>>>>>>>> item. And there's just no reason for it. 1 mm? Come on. If it were >>>>>>>>>> for some seriously good reason, OK. But 1 mm? This is just crazy. >>>>>>>>>> Mary >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 7, 2015, at 10:44 AM, Chip Orange <lists3...@comcast.net> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I suspect this is going to happen, and I really don't see any >>>>>>>>>>> problem with buying an adapter for existing headphones to use to >>>>>>>>>>> plug into the lightning port. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Chip >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] >>>>>>>>>>> On >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Behalf Of nicholasacosta...@gmail.com >>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2015 4:49 PM >>>>>>>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>>>>>>>>> Subject: iPhone seven rumors >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone hello, as you all may know you might have >>>>>>>>>>> heard >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> of some rumors claiming that the next iPhone will not have a >>>>>>>>>>> headphone jack.. So, this might not be a good thing for Apple to >>>>>>>>>>> do >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> this. But, reports are also saying that they might use the >>>>>>>>>>> lightning connector that you use to charge the iPhone to use it >>>>>>>>>>> as >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> a headphone jack. But, that means that in order for somebody's >>>>>>>>>>> headphones to fit into that Jack, they will need to support a >>>>>>>>>>> lightning connector for the headphones. I don't know what the >>>>>>>>>>> companies will think about this change if it happens. Remember, >>>>>>>>>>> if >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> this rumor is true, please email Apple and tell them not to do >>>>>>>>>>> this. Also, people might think that if there wasn't a headphone >>>>>>>>>>> jack, we might still be able to use Bluetooth. But, this might >>>>>>>>>>> not >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> be what somebody else lights. Having a headphone jack is better. >>>>>>>>>>> What will also happen to any Bluetooth speakers that people own? >>>>>>>>>>> These speakers might have a headphone jack connected to them and >>>>>>>>>>> might require that you plug >>>>> i >>>>>>> t into the headphone jack in order to use. I hope that Apple does not >>>>>>> make this move because it might not do any good for them. The iPhone >>>>>>> sales might go down. We would not want that to happen just because >>>>>>> Apple made this change. Please remember, the iPhone 7 is still in the >>>>>>> making and these are just rumors. As long as we tell Apple what we >>>>>>> want, who knows, they might listen to us. But, we can't just keep >>>>>>> quiet. 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