Not sure if my last message on this topic actually made it to the list so here goes once more, with feeling. :)
Robin, I understand what you are saying here but honestly, though Steve most certainly was of the philosophy that to make sure you gave people what they want, simply tell them what they want. While this sounds incredibly obnoxious on the surface, Steve demonstrated time and time again that despite this outward image, he definitely had his finger on the pulse of what people actually would find helpful and useful in their day-to-day lives. This in my opinion is why this sort of philosophy worked for Steve but not for very many others. Mostly people try to guess what people want or to just assume that people want what they, themselves, want. These attempts tend to have a spectacular failure rate as we have seen. Steve was not arbitrary in anything he did so the products which came out of Apple were also not arbitrary. Their design was for a reason, and for the most part, I think there’s no denying that it worked well. Now however, in my view, I feel that Apple is acting as if Steve is still around and displaying the kind of attitude that allowed. The problem with this is that the kind of vision which Steve lent to Apple’s innovations just isn’t there. So in my opinion, you end up with a lot of disconnected, arbitrary product decisions which just don’t work together as well as they might. This is of course, just my view, and I would welcome differing ones here as well. If I am wrong on this one, please, by all means, show me how and I will gladly listen. In this case at least, I would certainly love to be wrong. :) Thanks for reading and please do have a lovely weekend / holiday season! Cheers! Cara --- iOS design and development - LookTel.com --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/models/Cara-Quinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara On Dec 11, 2015, at 1:26 PM, Robin <robin-mel...@comcast.net> wrote: Correct Jonathan, Apple users are Lucky SteveJobs isn't in control because if he intended to make the iPhone thinner, the HeadPhone Jack would be gone. Does anyone recall him (SteveJobs) saying people can have WhatEver color they like, so long as its Black. At 06:30 AM 12/10/2015, you wrote: > Hi Scott, when it comes to Apple rumours, it's important to look at their > source, and whether they have a track record of accuracy. We're seeing > credible sources suggesting that Apple may be holding an event in March to > launch the Apple Watch 2. Since the iPhone 6C if it eventuates would be using > the same chips that are already being produced for iPhone 6s and 6s Plus, > it's not beyond the realms of possibility that it will be launched then. If > there is to be an iPhone 6c, Apple won't want it overshadowing the iPhone 7 > announcements. Those phones will of course be the current screen sizes. > As for the headphone jack issue and your comment that people are being bent > out of shape about it, again it's important to consider how credible the > source is. We know that Apple has been thinking about the issue because they > patented their own proprietary headphone jack, and then they introduced specs > for made for iPhone headphones that use the Lightning port. As you say, there > is a pair of headphones with a Lightning connector in the Apple Store now. > for 800 bucks. And the rumour has been deemed credible enough to have been > commented on extensively by many respected technology news sites, including > Cult of Mac, 9 to 5 Mac, Apple Insider, Beta News, CNet, and Mashable. Even > CBS has picked it up. > But there is one site remaining curiously and ominously silent. What I find > deeply disappointing is that AppleVis has not said a thing about a topic > which could have an enormous impact on the way blind people use their > iPhones. It's not just hearing impaired people who will take a hit, but > anyone who wants to use their iPhone with minimal latency and energy > consumption, who appreciate being able to charge their phones while they also > enjoy the privacy that the headphone jack affords. There is an important and > unique use case here that Apple need to be made aware of before it's too > late, and for AppleVis to remain silent when many other Apple blogs are > speaking out is a gross dereliction of duty in my opinion. Why isn't this an > AppleVis campaign of the month? Staying silent on such an important issue, > when AppleVis could at least be encouraging users to complete the feedback > form, is ostrich-like in the extreme. I think it's time users held AppleVis > to account for its silence on this. > Jonathan Mosen > Mosen Consulting > Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training > http://Mosen.org > >> On 11/12/2015, at 3:06 AM, Scott Davert <scottslistm...@gmail.com > wrote: >> >> February? I doubt that. When was the last time an iPhone wasn't >> released in the fall? >> I think, like with the headphone rumor, getting all bent out of shape >> is just not really going to help much. However, there could be more >> reason for the headphone rumor to becoming closer to a reality since >> Apple is now selling headphones with lightning connectors. SO while I >> doubt it'll happen next year, it's certainly not out of the rehlm of >> possibilities. I don't like the idea for a lot of reasons, one of them >> being that, just like the 1 port Mac, which is stupid imho, this will >> force me to carry around more crap if I need to use more than one port >> at a time. It also means more stuff to charge, shorter battery life on >> my phone, and the delay from VoiceOver. Maybe they'll just introduce >> the lack of a headphone plug on the 6C, assuming that rumor is going >> to come to pass, and see how it plays out. However, I'd say that the >> 5C was not a success, so they may not bother. >> >> Scott >> >> On 12/9/15, Marie <scribbl...@comcast.net > wrote: >>> Actually I would love a smaller phone and if that particular rumor is true I >>> >>> will be thinking very much about upgrading to the 7. I like a phone which >>> fits into the pocket on cargo pants when shopping, etc. so the larger phones >>> >>> just don't fit. And the less space I have to search around the screen for >>> things the faster and more efficient I am. JMT. >>> Marie >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Rajmund >>> Sent: Wednesday, December 9, 2015 9:30 AM >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Re: iPhone seven rumors >>> >>> Hello, >>> Yes, that was it. Glad we got it. :) >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: Christopher Chaltain <chalt...@gmail.com> >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>> Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2015 12:28 pm >>> Subject: Re: iPhone seven rumors >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Well, in your original post you said "Not just the size, but it does >>>> contribute. Price, and quality also contributes", and I'm not sure what >>>> you meant by this. At first I thought you meant that a smaller iPhone >>>> would be cheaper and of less quality, but now I'm thinking you mean that >>>> size, quality and price figure into your decision in buying a new phone. >>>> >>>> In your last post you said "not sure which part, you have taken" which >>>> also confuses me a bit, but I'm guessing you're saying you're not sure >>>> which part of your message I didn't understand. >>>> >>>> Either way, I think we're all good now. >>>> >>>> On 09/12/15 00:06, Rajmund wrote: >>>>> Hello, >>>>> If apple comes up with a smaller phone, I would want it. So not sure >>>>> which part, you have taken as I'm worried about it. Clarify, please? >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: Christopher Chaltain <chalt...@gmail.com> >>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>>> Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2015 2:21 am >>>>> Subject: Re: iPhone seven rumors >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> First, I think the bending issue was much to do about nothing. I'm not >>>>>> sure I understand the rest of your message, but a smaller iPhone won't >>>>>> mean a low budget iPhone. If Apple does come out with a smaller >>>>>> iPhone, >>>>>> it'll still be a high quality top of the line smart phone. >>>>>> >>>>>> On 08/12/15 08:03, Rajmund wrote: >>>>>>> Hello, >>>>>>> One of the reasons of me not getting a 6 is the size. Not just the >>>>>>> size, but it does contribute. Price, and quality also contributes. And >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm worried of it bending. It may not, but I'm worried about that, as >>>>>>> >>>>>>> well. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>> From: terrie arnold <terrieiph...@me.com> >>>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>>>>> Date: Tuesday, December 8, 2015 12:56 pm >>>>>>> Subject: Re: iPhone seven rumors >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I have heard of them comming back out with a small iphone the >>>>>>>> size of the 5s , as I have heard that this size has been >>>>>>>> requested since the larger 6s came out. I heard this on a tech >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> report on Fox and CNN >>>>>>>> , so what do all of you think about this , would you get a >>>>>>>> smaller phone , and thoes of you that are hanging on to the 5s, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 4s and some of the 3gs >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> My thoughts for today >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Dec 8, 2015, at 12:33 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Rob from the Today in iOS Podcast made a few good points in his >>>>>>>>> latest episode where he of course talked about this. Firstly, he >>>>>>>>> mentioned that this rumour has not surfaced for the first time, I >>>>>>>>> think it did also come up 2 years ago. Secondly, he mentioned that >>>>>>>>> that the iPod Touch is almost 1 mm thinner than the 6S or 6S Plus >>>>>>>>> and it still has a 3.5mm headphone jack. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [ mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Behalf Of Mary Otten >>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, December 7, 2015 11:07 AM >>>>>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: iPhone seven rumors >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Well, I have said before and will say again that I think it is a >>>>>>>>> stupid idea to trade off one millimeter of thickness for the >>>>>>>>> headphone jack. I do not want an adapter. I do not want to pay for >>>>>>>>> it, nor do I want to lose it, which is almost inevitable. And then I >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> would have to buy another one. I'm sure it won't be a two dollar >>>>>>>>> item. And there's just no reason for it. 1 mm? Come on. If it were >>>>>>>>> for some seriously good reason, OK. But 1 mm? This is just crazy. >>>>>>>>> Mary >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Dec 7, 2015, at 10:44 AM, Chip Orange <lists3...@comcast.net > >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I suspect this is going to happen, and I really don't see any >>>>>>>>>> problem with buying an adapter for existing headphones to use to >>>>>>>>>> plug into the lightning port. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Chip >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [ mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Behalf Of nicholasacosta...@gmail.com >>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2015 4:49 PM >>>>>>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>>>>>>>> Subject: iPhone seven rumors >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone hello, as you all may know you might have heard >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> of some rumors claiming that the next iPhone will not have a >>>>>>>>>> headphone jack.. So, this might not be a good thing for Apple to do >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> this. But, reports are also saying that they might use the >>>>>>>>>> lightning connector that you use to charge the iPhone to use it as >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> a headphone jack. But, that means that in order for somebody's >>>>>>>>>> headphones to fit into that Jack, they will need to support a >>>>>>>>>> lightning connector for the headphones. I don't know what the >>>>>>>>>> companies will think about this change if it happens. Remember, if >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> this rumor is true, please email Apple and tell them not to do >>>>>>>>>> this. Also, people might think that if there wasn't a headphone >>>>>>>>>> jack, we might still be able to use Bluetooth. But, this might not >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> be what somebody else lights. Having a headphone jack is better. >>>>>>>>>> What will also happen to any Bluetooth speakers that people own? >>>>>>>>>> These speakers might have a headphone jack connected to them and >>>>>>>>>> might require that you plug >>>> i >>>>>> t into the headphone jack in order to use. I hope that Apple does not >>>>>> make this move because it might not do any good for them. The iPhone >>>>>> sales might go down. We would not want that to happen just because >>>>>> Apple made this change. Please remember, the iPhone 7 is still in the >>>>>> making and these are just rumors. As long as we tell Apple what we >>>>>> want, who knows, they might listen to us. But, we can't just keep >>>>>> quiet. 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