Absolutely right.

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> On Dec 10, 2015, at 3:51 PM, Christopher Chaltain <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> What makes the head phone jack so archaic? How does replacing it with a 
> Lightning connector open up enormous possibilities?
> 
> Referring to people expressing their concerns over losing the headphone jack 
> as being bent out of shape is dismissive and rude. I don't think any one is 
> bent out of shape over this issue, but just as it's OK for someone to have an 
> opinion that a Lightning connected head phone is a good thing, it's also OK 
> for people to express their opinion that they'd like the traditional 
> headphone jack to stick around. No one on either side of this issue should be 
> dismissive or put down the opinions of others.
> 
>> On 10/12/15 12:04, Daniel Miller wrote:
>> The jack is so archaic, but that’s just my opinion. Like I said in my
>> previous post, the advancements that could come with a switch to the
>> lightning port are enormous, but they could still offer an adaptor for
>> people that want to use normal headphones.
>> Lightning headphones are expensive, yes, but making a move right now
>> gives people to adapt to change, since it’s inevitable anyway, so we
>> might as well learn to adapt or stop complaining.
>> 
>>> On Dec 10, 2015, at 11:54 AM, Jonathan Mosen <[email protected]
>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Precisely, they used to do these things, and consumer pressure caused
>>> a rethink and a move to the 3.5 standard headphone jack.
>>> Jonathan Mosen
>>> Mosen Consulting
>>> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
>>> http://Mosen.org <http://mosen.org/>
>>> 
>>>> On 11/12/2015, at 6:39 AM, Krister Ekstrom <[email protected]
>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I agree with you Daniel. Furthermore, back in the days of non-smart
>>>> phones Nokia and possibly Ericsson as well  had their own idea of
>>>> what a headphone jack should be and look like.
>>>>> 10 dec. 2015 kl. 18:33 skrev Daniel Miller <[email protected]
>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>>:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I’m sorry if this sounds rude, but why, exactly is everyone so bent
>>>>> out of shape about the no headphone jack rumor?
>>>>> First off, we don’t even know if it’s going to happen, and second,
>>>>> if Apple were going to do something that drastic, they’d surely
>>>>> think about all possible scenarios before plunging ahead with such a
>>>>> move.
>>>>> I personally would love to see a new approach to headphones,
>>>>> preferably one that provides for better audio quality than what the
>>>>> current jacks limitations due to it being analog can provide.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Dec 10, 2015, at 11:27 AM, Jonathan Mosen <[email protected]
>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi Mary, AppleVis tend not to link to other sites within the blind
>>>>>> community, so I suspect that if I tried, it would just be removed.
>>>>>> But yes, their stoney silence on this is appalling.
>>>>>> Jonathan Mosen
>>>>>> Mosen Consulting
>>>>>> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
>>>>>> http://Mosen.org <http://mosen.org/>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 11/12/2015, at 6:17 AM, Mary Otten <[email protected]
>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi Jonathan,
>>>>>>> I hope you have posted a link to this along with a summary
>>>>>>> perhaps, over at Apple vis. I think you are correct that Apple vis
>>>>>>> should wake up and take notice to this possible loss of a
>>>>>>> headphone jack. If this much of the mainstream press is paying
>>>>>>> attention, why aren't they?
>>>>>>> Mary
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Dec 10, 2015, at 9:11 AM, Jonathan Mosen <[email protected]
>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hi everyone, since I posted the text of my blog entry last week,
>>>>>>>> there's been some great discussion here about what the removal of
>>>>>>>> the headphone jack would mean. I've also had a lot of private
>>>>>>>> email and comments on this as well, and I know dozens of you have
>>>>>>>> completed Apple's feedback form. So thanks for having your say.
>>>>>>>> Thanks to all this feedback, I was able to write a new blog post
>>>>>>>> that I think captures more of our concerns on this topic, and
>>>>>>>> crystallises the issues better. It's really long so I won't paste
>>>>>>>> it here, but if this topic interests you, you may like to take a
>>>>>>>> look here.
>>>>>>>> http://mosen.org/index.php/an-iphone-without-a-headphone-jack-the-accessibility-ramifications/
>>>>>>>> Jonathan Mosen
>>>>>>>> Mosen Consulting
>>>>>>>> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
>>>>>>>> http://Mosen.org <http://mosen.org/>
>>>>>>>> 
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