Hi Donna,

I would definitely not get an iPhone 5S since when the iPhone SE was released 
just a while back it is replacing the iPhone 5S. I don't think you can even buy 
a new 5S any more now and definitely you won't be able to by this fall when the 
iPhone 7/7 Plus or whatever they will be called will be released. It will be 
interesting to see if the smaller 4 inch phone which the SE is, will also get 
another update. I wouldn't put it past Apple to release a new phone in April 
and give it an update in the fall and then keep the older one around as a less 
expensive option. Anyhow, you definitely want to look at the iPhone SE and not 
the 5S, at least this is my thought on this.

Regards,
Siegghard

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
Donna
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2016 1:29 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: IOS 10-- what's new in accessibility ?

Chris

Do you know how much longer the iPhone 5s will be supported? I'm considering 
getting my soon to be teenager an iPhone 5s for Christmas. I don't want to 
purchase her a phone that will only be supported for a short time. 

Donna
> 
> Final update? For the iPhone 5? All we know is that the iPhone 4s is due for 
> its “final update” very soon, 9.3.3, before it will be considered “obsolete”. 
> Can’t believe it has survived this far. iPhone 5, however, will have at least 
> one more year of software support since iOS 10 will run on it and will be the 
> oldest iPhone to support this upcoming major release.
>> On 16 Jun 2016, at 19:54, Michael McKay <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi folks: I am wondering if anyone knows when the final iOS update is out 
>> for the iPhone 5. I have been told that there is one more major update 
>> coming out for the iPhone 5 and then there would be no more, and then I 
>> would upgrade my phone to an iPhone 6 Plus, 6S plus or seven. If someone 
>> could get back to me and let me know about the iPhone 5 final update it 
>> would be appreciated.
>> 
>> Thanks much!
>> Michael G. McKay BA, '05.
>> Email: [email protected]
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jun 16, 2016, at 15:32, Krister Ekstrom <[email protected]> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Confirmed here too. Tried the link and got a ”delivery failed” notice here 
>>> too.
>>> /Krister
>>> 
>>>> 16 juni 2016 kl. 19:37 skrev Michael G McKay <[email protected]>:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi! Mr. Mosen:
>>>> 
>>>> I just tried to subscribe to the email group you mentioned. And it 
>>>> returned saying that the delivery failed permanently. I used the subscribe 
>>>> link you provided for the list.
>>>> 
>>>> Assistance would be very much appreciated.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks much in advance.
>>>> 
>>>> Michael G. McKay BA, ’05.
>>>> Email: [email protected]
>>>> 
>>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
>>>> Behalf Of Jonathan Mosen
>>>> Sent: June 16, 2016 1:44 PM
>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>> Subject: Re: IOS 10-- what's new in accessibility ?
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Guys, for three or four years, I've been running an email list for 
>>>> registered developers and, as of last year, public beta testers of iOS.
>>>> It's very focussed and has a lot of experienced testers, but if you think 
>>>> you can contribute, you can send a blank email to:
>>>> [email protected]
>>>> Jonathan Mosen
>>>> Mosen Consulting
>>>> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training 
>>>> http://Mosen.org
>>>> 
>>>>> On 17/06/2016, at 12:28 AM, Liel Ben Simon ליאל בן סימון 
>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi! The beta of the developers is different from publick beta. Only in 
>>>>> the publick beta there is a feedbeck app.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from  my iphone
>>>>> 
>>>>> ‫ב-16 ביוני 2016, בשעה 15:20, ‏‏Shawn Krasniuk ‏<[email protected]> 
>>>>> כתב/ה:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Well, I think for your case, they'd make an exception. You know Matt 
>>>>>> Dierckens right? Maybe shoot him an email asking if developer testers 
>>>>>> are discluded from that list. If you don't, email me off list and I'll 
>>>>>> gladly send you his email address.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Shawn
>>>>>> Sent From My White MacBook
>>>>>> Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs 
>>>>>> Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
>>>>>> Facetime: [email protected]
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Jun 16, 2016, at 3:36 AM, Krister Ekstrom 
>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hmm interesting, this means i will be excluded from the beta testers 
>>>>>>> list if i get that question because i’m a registered developer and use 
>>>>>>> developer betas and have never had the feedback assistant.
>>>>>>> /Krister
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 16 juni 2016 kl. 04:48 skrev Shawn Krasniuk <[email protected]>:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hi Chris. I gotta interject with you here. Being that I'm one of the 
>>>>>>>> members of the beta list, it's not breaking NDA at all. Only beta 
>>>>>>>> testers can subscribe to that list. The moderators ask questions like 
>>>>>>>> where your Feedback Assistant app is and if you don't have one, 
>>>>>>>> they'll automatically reject your request to join. Just thought I'd 
>>>>>>>> clear that up and yes, iOS 10 was available for developers as a beta 
>>>>>>>> after the WWDC keynote.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Shawn
>>>>>>>> Sent From My White MacBook
>>>>>>>> Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk Twitter Handle: 
>>>>>>>> shawnk_aka_bbs Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
>>>>>>>> Facetime: [email protected]
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Jun 15, 2016, at 7:16 AM, Christopher Chaltain 
>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> That's true, but people are perfectly free to discuss whatever Apple 
>>>>>>>>> has announced, which would include any new accessibility features  
>>>>>>>>> that were announced during the developers summit. I'm not sure 
>>>>>>>>> there's an IOS 10 beta yet, so no one could talk about what they're 
>>>>>>>>> seeing in the beta anyway.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> BTW, talking about Apple's beta software, even on a beta list, is 
>>>>>>>>> still violating Apple's NDA with beta users.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On 15/06/16 07:12, Daniel Miller wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Hi. Unfortunately, no one is allowed to post anything about 
>>>>>>>>>> purelease software on this list. There is however, a beta discussion 
>>>>>>>>>> group that a couple list members created. I don't remember the 
>>>>>>>>>> address offhand to subscribe to that though.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone 6S Plus
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 15, 2016, at 3:24 AM, 'Ming' via VIPhone 
>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all!
>>>>>>>>>>> anyone know that any new features in accessibility  side of IOS 10?
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> thanks and regards,
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Ming
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> msn/window live messenger
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