I'm not sure who does do artificial deprecation of hardware, but I am a bit disappointed that my 4S may no longer be supported. I'm not sure if there's something in the 4S that Apple no longer wants to code support for or if it's because they don't want users to get a less than great experience on an Apple device. It may also be that they want to save some money by not taking any support questions on the 4S or by doing any regression testing on it. I'd be willing to try IOS 10 on it to see how it performced if Apple would let me though. I'd do this even if Apple told me it hadn't been tested and wouldn't be supported and I was on my own giving it a try.

Don't get me wrong, I'm glad I had the run I did on my 4S, but I compare this to my netbook from 2009 that still running the latest Linux or my laptop from 2011 that's also running the latest Linux but also able to run Windows 10.

On 19/06/16 18:04, Devin Prater wrote:
Yep, and I think that shows that Apple doesn’t do artificial deprecation
of hardware.
Sent from my Mac.

Devin Prater
[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>



On Jun 17, 2016, at 1:37 PM, christopher hallsworth
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

My prediction, iOS 11 will work on the 5s and up. iOS 12, 6 and up,
etc etc. But Apple did surprise us last year when they announced all
devices running iOS 8 could run iOS 9. So what I put here is only
speculation.
On 17 Jun 2016, at 02:43, Gerardo Corripio <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

At least maybe until iOS11 probably by September of 2018 when iOS12
comes out maybe it won't be supported anymore?

El 16/06/2016 03:28 p.m., Donna escribió:
Chris

Do you know how much longer the iPhone 5s will be supported? I'm
considering getting my soon to be teenager an iPhone 5s for
Christmas. I don't want to purchase her a phone that will only be
supported for a short time.

Donna
Final update? For the iPhone 5? All we know is that the iPhone 4s
is due for its “final update” very soon, 9.3.3, before it will be
considered “obsolete”. Can’t believe it has survived this far.
iPhone 5, however, will have at least one more year of software
support since iOS 10 will run on it and will be the oldest iPhone
to support this upcoming major release.
On 16 Jun 2016, at 19:54, Michael McKay<[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>>  wrote:

Hi folks: I am wondering if anyone knows when the final iOS update
is out for the iPhone 5. I have been told that there is one more
major update coming out for the iPhone 5 and then there would be
no more, and then I would upgrade my phone to an iPhone 6 Plus, 6S
plus or seven. If someone could get back to me and let me know
about the iPhone 5 final update it would be appreciated.

Thanks much!
Michael G. McKay BA, '05.
Email: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 16, 2016, at 15:32, Krister
Ekstrom<[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>>  wrote:

Confirmed here too. Tried the link and got a ”delivery failed”
notice here too.
/Krister

16 juni 2016 kl. 19:37 skrev Michael G
McKay<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>:

Hi! Mr. Mosen:

I just tried to subscribe to the email group you mentioned. And
it returned saying that the delivery failed permanently. I used
the subscribe link you provided for the list.

Assistance would be very much appreciated.

Thanks much in advance.

Michael G. McKay BA, ’05.
Email: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>

From: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jonathan Mosen
Sent: June 16, 2016 1:44 PM
To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: IOS 10-- what's new in accessibility ?

Hi Guys, for three or four years, I've been running an email
list for registered developers and, as of last year, public beta
testers of iOS.
It's very focussed and has a lot of experienced testers, but if
you think you can contribute, you can send a blank email to:
[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>
Jonathan Mosen
Mosen Consulting
Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
http://Mosen.org

On 17/06/2016, at 12:28 AM, Liel Ben Simon ליאל בן
סימון<[email protected]>  wrote:

Hi! The beta of the developers is different from publick beta.
Only in the publick beta there is a feedbeck app.

Sent from  my iphone

‫ב-16 ביוני 2016, בשעה 15:20, ‏‏Shawn Krasniuk
‏<[email protected]>  כתב/ה:

Well, I think for your case, they'd make an exception. You
know Matt Dierckens right? Maybe shoot him an email asking if
developer testers are discluded from that list. If you don't,
email me off list and I'll gladly send you his email address.

Shawn
Sent From My White MacBook
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Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
Facetime: [email protected]

On Jun 16, 2016, at 3:36 AM, Krister
Ekstrom<[email protected]>  wrote:

Hmm interesting, this means i will be excluded from the beta
testers list if i get that question because i’m a registered
developer and use developer betas and have never had the
feedback assistant.
/Krister

16 juni 2016 kl. 04:48 skrev Shawn
Krasniuk<[email protected]>:

Hi Chris. I gotta interject with you here. Being that I'm
one of the members of the beta list, it's not breaking NDA
at all. Only beta testers can subscribe to that list. The
moderators ask questions like where your Feedback Assistant
app is and if you don't have one, they'll automatically
reject your request to join. Just thought I'd clear that up
and yes, iOS 10 was available for developers as a beta after
the WWDC keynote.

Shawn
Sent From My White MacBook
Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
Facetime: [email protected]

On Jun 15, 2016, at 7:16 AM, Christopher
Chaltain<[email protected]>  wrote:

That's true, but people are perfectly free to discuss
whatever Apple has announced, which would include any new
accessibility features  that were announced during the
developers summit. I'm not sure there's an IOS 10 beta yet,
so no one could talk about what they're seeing in the beta
anyway.

BTW, talking about Apple's beta software, even on a beta
list, is still violating Apple's NDA with beta users.

On 15/06/16 07:12, Daniel Miller wrote:

Hi. Unfortunately, no one is allowed to post anything
about purelease software on this list. There is however, a
beta discussion group that a couple list members created.
I don't remember the address offhand to subscribe to that
though.

Sent from my iPhone 6S Plus


On Jun 15, 2016, at 3:24 AM, 'Ming' via
VIPhone<[email protected]>  wrote:

Hi all!
anyone know that any new features in accessibility  side
of IOS 10?

thanks and regards,


Ming

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