Nothing lasts forever.
Sent from my Verizon iPhone SE > On Jun 20, 2016, at 2:30 AM, Christopher Chaltain <chalt...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I'm not sure who does do artificial deprecation of hardware, but I am a bit > disappointed that my 4S may no longer be supported. I'm not sure if there's > something in the 4S that Apple no longer wants to code support for or if it's > because they don't want users to get a less than great experience on an Apple > device. It may also be that they want to save some money by not taking any > support questions on the 4S or by doing any regression testing on it. I'd be > willing to try IOS 10 on it to see how it performced if Apple would let me > though. I'd do this even if Apple told me it hadn't been tested and wouldn't > be supported and I was on my own giving it a try. > > Don't get me wrong, I'm glad I had the run I did on my 4S, but I compare this > to my netbook from 2009 that still running the latest Linux or my laptop from > 2011 that's also running the latest Linux but also able to run Windows 10. > >> On 19/06/16 18:04, Devin Prater wrote: >> Yep, and I think that shows that Apple doesn’t do artificial deprecation >> of hardware. >> Sent from my Mac. >> >> Devin Prater >> r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com <mailto:r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com> >> >> >> >>> On Jun 17, 2016, at 1:37 PM, christopher hallsworth >>> <challswor...@icloud.com <mailto:challswor...@icloud.com>> wrote: >>> >>> My prediction, iOS 11 will work on the 5s and up. iOS 12, 6 and up, >>> etc etc. But Apple did surprise us last year when they announced all >>> devices running iOS 8 could run iOS 9. So what I put here is only >>> speculation. >>>> On 17 Jun 2016, at 02:43, Gerardo Corripio <gera1...@gmail.com >>>> <mailto:gera1...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>> >>>> At least maybe until iOS11 probably by September of 2018 when iOS12 >>>> comes out maybe it won't be supported anymore? >>>> >>>> El 16/06/2016 03:28 p.m., Donna escribió: >>>>> Chris >>>>> >>>>> Do you know how much longer the iPhone 5s will be supported? I'm >>>>> considering getting my soon to be teenager an iPhone 5s for >>>>> Christmas. I don't want to purchase her a phone that will only be >>>>> supported for a short time. >>>>> >>>>> Donna >>>>>> Final update? For the iPhone 5? All we know is that the iPhone 4s >>>>>> is due for its “final update” very soon, 9.3.3, before it will be >>>>>> considered “obsolete”. Can’t believe it has survived this far. >>>>>> iPhone 5, however, will have at least one more year of software >>>>>> support since iOS 10 will run on it and will be the oldest iPhone >>>>>> to support this upcoming major release. >>>>>>> On 16 Jun 2016, at 19:54, Michael McKay<mgmckay1...@gmail.com >>>>>>> <mailto:mgmckay1...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi folks: I am wondering if anyone knows when the final iOS update >>>>>>> is out for the iPhone 5. I have been told that there is one more >>>>>>> major update coming out for the iPhone 5 and then there would be >>>>>>> no more, and then I would upgrade my phone to an iPhone 6 Plus, 6S >>>>>>> plus or seven. If someone could get back to me and let me know >>>>>>> about the iPhone 5 final update it would be appreciated. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks much! >>>>>>> Michael G. McKay BA, '05. >>>>>>> Email: mgmckay1...@gmail.com <mailto:mgmckay1...@gmail.com> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Jun 16, 2016, at 15:32, Krister >>>>>>>> Ekstrom<kris...@kristersplace.com >>>>>>>> <mailto:kris...@kristersplace.com>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Confirmed here too. Tried the link and got a ”delivery failed” >>>>>>>> notice here too. >>>>>>>> /Krister >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 16 juni 2016 kl. 19:37 skrev Michael G >>>>>>>>> McKay<mgmckay1...@gmail.com <mailto:mgmckay1...@gmail.com>>: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi! Mr. Mosen: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I just tried to subscribe to the email group you mentioned. And >>>>>>>>> it returned saying that the delivery failed permanently. I used >>>>>>>>> the subscribe link you provided for the list. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Assistance would be very much appreciated. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks much in advance. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Michael G. McKay BA, ’05. >>>>>>>>> Email: mgmckay1...@gmail.com <mailto:mgmckay1...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >>>>>>>>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan Mosen >>>>>>>>> Sent: June 16, 2016 1:44 PM >>>>>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: IOS 10-- what's new in accessibility ? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi Guys, for three or four years, I've been running an email >>>>>>>>> list for registered developers and, as of last year, public beta >>>>>>>>> testers of iOS. >>>>>>>>> It's very focussed and has a lot of experienced testers, but if >>>>>>>>> you think you can contribute, you can send a blank email to: >>>>>>>>> testing-subscr...@lists.appcessible.net >>>>>>>>> <mailto:testing-subscr...@lists.appcessible.net> >>>>>>>>> Jonathan Mosen >>>>>>>>> Mosen Consulting >>>>>>>>> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training >>>>>>>>> http://Mosen.org >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 17/06/2016, at 12:28 AM, Liel Ben Simon ליאל בן >>>>>>>>>> סימון<liel...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hi! The beta of the developers is different from publick beta. >>>>>>>>>> Only in the publick beta there is a feedbeck app. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iphone >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ב-16 ביוני 2016, בשעה 15:20, Shawn Krasniuk >>>>>>>>>> <bbssh...@icloud.com> כתב/ה: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Well, I think for your case, they'd make an exception. You >>>>>>>>>>> know Matt Dierckens right? Maybe shoot him an email asking if >>>>>>>>>>> developer testers are discluded from that list. If you don't, >>>>>>>>>>> email me off list and I'll gladly send you his email address. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Shawn >>>>>>>>>>> Sent From My White MacBook >>>>>>>>>>> Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk >>>>>>>>>>> Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs >>>>>>>>>>> Skype username: bbstheblindrapper >>>>>>>>>>> Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 16, 2016, at 3:36 AM, Krister >>>>>>>>>>>> Ekstrom<kris...@kristersplace.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hmm interesting, this means i will be excluded from the beta >>>>>>>>>>>> testers list if i get that question because i’m a registered >>>>>>>>>>>> developer and use developer betas and have never had the >>>>>>>>>>>> feedback assistant. >>>>>>>>>>>> /Krister >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 16 juni 2016 kl. 04:48 skrev Shawn >>>>>>>>>>>>> Krasniuk<bbssh...@icloud.com>: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Chris. I gotta interject with you here. Being that I'm >>>>>>>>>>>>> one of the members of the beta list, it's not breaking NDA >>>>>>>>>>>>> at all. Only beta testers can subscribe to that list. The >>>>>>>>>>>>> moderators ask questions like where your Feedback Assistant >>>>>>>>>>>>> app is and if you don't have one, they'll automatically >>>>>>>>>>>>> reject your request to join. Just thought I'd clear that up >>>>>>>>>>>>> and yes, iOS 10 was available for developers as a beta after >>>>>>>>>>>>> the WWDC keynote. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Shawn >>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent From My White MacBook >>>>>>>>>>>>> Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk >>>>>>>>>>>>> Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs >>>>>>>>>>>>> Skype username: bbstheblindrapper >>>>>>>>>>>>> Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 15, 2016, at 7:16 AM, Christopher >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chaltain<chalt...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's true, but people are perfectly free to discuss >>>>>>>>>>>>>> whatever Apple has announced, which would include any new >>>>>>>>>>>>>> accessibility features that were announced during the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> developers summit. I'm not sure there's an IOS 10 beta yet, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> so no one could talk about what they're seeing in the beta >>>>>>>>>>>>>> anyway. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> BTW, talking about Apple's beta software, even on a beta >>>>>>>>>>>>>> list, is still violating Apple's NDA with beta users. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 15/06/16 07:12, Daniel Miller wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi. Unfortunately, no one is allowed to post anything >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about purelease software on this list. There is however, a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> beta discussion group that a couple list members created. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't remember the address offhand to subscribe to that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> though. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone 6S Plus >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 15, 2016, at 3:24 AM, 'Ming' via >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> VIPhone<viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anyone know that any new features in accessibility side >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of IOS 10? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thanks and regards, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ming >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> msn/window live messenger >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chung_chiming_2...@hotmail.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> skype: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chungchiming9950 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> face book: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.facebook.com/mingcm1 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The following information is important for all members of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the V iPhone list. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> owner is Cara Quinn - 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