Yes, going threw the channels with someone sited is very helpful.  Should we 
have to do it?  Of course not, but not everyone makes there apps accessible, so 
this is the next best thing.  Also, pay attention to the number of channels, 
they add and remove some from time to time.
> On Nov 13, 2016, at 10:31 AM, Terri Stimmel <icecreamlove...@outlook.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Bob, Kliphton, and list,
> 
> Yes Bob, I will be able to cancel my subscription. I made sure of this. 
> Or I mean, trial.
> I asked the man on the phone yesterday, that if for some reason I 
> couldn't cancel online, could I call and cancel. He told me yes there 
> would be no problem with that, and that I could even email them. So I 
> feel pretty good about this.
> 
> The sad thing is, both people I have dealt with from that company, have 
> been very nice, and polite. They try to be helpful. But they are 
> ignorant in a lot of ways. I don't said that to be rude, just speaking 
> the truth.
> 
> For instance, when I called last night to see where I could find a 
> listing of channels, I got a very nice man on the phone. He wanted to be 
> helpful. I told him that I was blind, and he didn't seemed as shocked as 
> the first guy who had helped me set up my account.
> 
> However, when I told him that I wanted to hopefully find a listing of 
> channels. He told me this was possible. I asked him where to go and he 
> said, after you see a few pictures, keep going down a bit, and you will 
> see a link for channels, and packages. Something like that anyway. I 
> decided to not repeat that I was blind, and that I wouldn't see the 
> pictures.
> I played around with the site, and I did find where I could view the 
> channel listings. It of course doesn't give you a number. But you can 
> find out what is available, and what package it is in. I found this all 
> works better with Firefox, rather than Internet Explorer for some reason.
> 
> And Kliphton, Fox is channel 1 on mine as well. I think channel 4, or 5 
> is Fox Midwest, as I ended up watching a little bit of a hockey game. 
> That was cool!
> 
> I asked my roommate when he got home last night, if he would go through 
> the channels with me, and he said yes. So I am excited about this.
> 
> Terri
> On 11/13/2016 8:48 AM, Kliphton Miller wrote:
>> yah, that’s it.  I think it depends on your area, my channel 1 is my local 
>> fox channel.
>>> On Nov 13, 2016, at 1:16 AM, Terri Stimmel <icecreamlove...@outlook.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Kliphton,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> It's under guide. I played around with it, and found the channels. Of
>>> course, like you mentioned, it doesn't say what they are. But it lists
>>> the numbers, and says when I am on one. It says, sellected. I can get
>>> the channels to play, so far.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I signed up for the blue, and orange package. I would like to know what
>>> the orange extra package is, if I plan to keep this.
>>> 
>>> By the way, apparently, channel 1 is FX.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I'm sorry you have been dealing with a loss, and a funeral.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thank you for your help with this. If you think of anything else, please
>>> let me know.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thank you,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Terri
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 11/12/2016 11:35 PM, Kliphton Miller wrote:
>>>> Maybe it is my tv, I can’t really remember, been out of town for a 
>>>> funeral, and haven’t watched much TV the last 2 weeks.
>>>>> On Nov 13, 2016, at 12:12 AM, Terri Stimmel <icecreamlove...@outlook.com> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hello Kliphton, and list,
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Ok, I decided to play with the Sling TV one more time. I wasn't planning
>>>>> on it. I had actually un-installed it. So I had to re-install it.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I had some trouble signing in, which I didn't before. So I found that to
>>>>> be a bit odd.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Anyway, I couldn't find a watch now option. I found my tv, on now,
>>>>> search, settings, and possibly something else. I just can't remember
>>>>> what it was. But I know for sure it wasn't watch now.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Here is where things get interesting.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I went in to the on now. I slid my finger down, and I was shocked to
>>>>> hear programs being announced. Now I think I could go left and right as
>>>>> well. But I don't remember for sure.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> It would tell me the name of the show, but not if it was a movie, or a
>>>>> show. Some of it was obvious. It would tell me the tv rating, the start
>>>>> time, but unfortunately not the channel. Also, when I entered on an
>>>>> option, not sure if it was a movie, it did come up. Once it came up, I
>>>>> learned it was an episode of Nashville.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> I just found this interesting, and thought that I would pass this on. I
>>>>> think I will fiddle around with it a bit more.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> I wish the website offered a list of channels. But I don't think they do.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Terri
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 11/12/2016 9:57 PM, Kliphton Miller wrote:
>>>>>> Sorry, if you go in to on now, it doesn’t work, but watch now is where 
>>>>>> the channels are listed as I stated in my previous message.
>>>>>>> On Nov 12, 2016, at 10:56 PM, Kliphton Miller <kliph...@icloud.com> 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I tried it, and it is usable depending on how much patients you have, 
>>>>>>> and if you are willing to try different methods.  Watch now wasn’t 
>>>>>>> accessible, adding favorites wasn’t accessible, but if you go in to 
>>>>>>> watch now, there is a list of channels from left to right.  Now, the 
>>>>>>> channels weren’t read by voiceover, but I went threw the channels with 
>>>>>>> my sited children, and wrote down the ones I wanted to remember in a 
>>>>>>> note on my iPhone.  After going threw them a few times, I remember what 
>>>>>>> each one was.  So, if I wanted to watch TBS, I knew it was 14 of 67, if 
>>>>>>> I wanted to watch oxygen, I knew it was 34 of 67, and if I wanted to 
>>>>>>> watch USA, I knew it was 18 of 67.  a little getting use to, but that 
>>>>>>> method worked for me.  I am only using it until direct TV now launches 
>>>>>>> its service next week, once it does, I am gone!  They will be offering 
>>>>>>> more channels for less. HTH
>>>>>>>> On Nov 12, 2016, at 10:07 PM, MamaPeach <mamape...@charter.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> When blind people tell others that something is not accessible, they 
>>>>>>>> provide this kind of information so others will know and not go 
>>>>>>>> through the struggle and stress themselves. I tend to hede warnings 
>>>>>>>> from others when they say something does not work with VoiceOver on 
>>>>>>>> any device. I was interested in Sling TV until I heard several people 
>>>>>>>> say not to waste my time.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- From: Terri Stimmel
>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2016 7:45 PM
>>>>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>>>>>> Subject: Sling tv
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hello everyone,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I have heard that Sling tv is not accessible. I have heard this more
>>>>>>>> than once. But I was curious to try it out, because they offer a 7 day
>>>>>>>> trial.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I had a little bit of a problem getting my account set up on the
>>>>>>>> website, so I called the phone number. The man I talked to was nice, 
>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>> he really did seem rather shocked, when I told him I was totally blind.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I informed him that I tried to sign up on the site, but that it 
>>>>>>>> wouldn't
>>>>>>>> let me submit my information. He told me that this can happen, because
>>>>>>>> their site gets over-loaded right now, with people trying to sign up. 
>>>>>>>> He
>>>>>>>> said for some reason, it had accepted my password. That was 
>>>>>>>> interesting!
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> So I got all set up, and I went and installed Sling on my Apple tv. I
>>>>>>>> was hoping it would work, though I had my doubts.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> It doesn't work!
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I could easily sign in. But once I was signed in, I didn't get any sort
>>>>>>>> of feedback. So I touched the gesture area, and that got a response.
>>>>>>>> Sadly, I could see the menu. But anything I tried to enter on, would 
>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>> come up.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I really think, and feel that if they would just put some effert in to
>>>>>>>> this product, it wouldn't be too difficult to make it more accessible. 
>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>> mean, I know nothing about making a product accessible. But you can 
>>>>>>>> read
>>>>>>>> the menu.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> So how hard can it be?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I decided to install the App for my computer. That experience was worse
>>>>>>>> than my Apple tv. When I open the program, it's as though there is
>>>>>>>> nothing there at all. There isn't even a way to sign in.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I just thought I would share my thoughts, and experiences with you all.
>>>>>>>> Even if many of you already knew all this.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Thank you,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Terri
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