Direct TV has a streaming service looks to be coming real soon.  They have 
released the channel lineup, said they will offer over 100 channels for 35 
bucks, and even offer a free appleTV 4 if you commit to 3 months of service.  
You can google direct TV now, or go to cordcuttersnews.com 
<http://cordcuttersnews.com/>
and they have a few articles about it there.
> On Nov 13, 2016, at 11:17 AM, Terri Stimmel <icecreamlove...@outlook.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Kliphton,
> 
> 
> No, it's not the way to have to do it. But if it works for now, then 
> that's what matters.
> 
> 
> I did discover these tabs at one point. I can't remember exactly where I 
> was when I discovered them. I think I had a channel on. But I couldn't 
> access those either.
> 
> 
> In a way, I feel it's just like cable. I couldn't ever watch anything 
> on-demand without sighted help, or on pay-per-view. But at least I could 
> go right to a channel.
> 
> 
> Now what is this thing with Direct tv I'm hearing of?
> 
> I don't know how to look it up, or I would. But I don't know what to 
> look for.
> 
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> 
> Terri
> 
> 
> On 11/13/2016 10:04 AM, Kliphton Miller wrote:
>> Yes, going threw the channels with someone sited is very helpful.  Should we 
>> have to do it?  Of course not, but not everyone makes there apps accessible, 
>> so this is the next best thing.  Also, pay attention to the number of 
>> channels, they add and remove some from time to time.
>>> On Nov 13, 2016, at 10:31 AM, Terri Stimmel <icecreamlove...@outlook.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Bob, Kliphton, and list,
>>> 
>>> Yes Bob, I will be able to cancel my subscription. I made sure of this.
>>> Or I mean, trial.
>>> I asked the man on the phone yesterday, that if for some reason I
>>> couldn't cancel online, could I call and cancel. He told me yes there
>>> would be no problem with that, and that I could even email them. So I
>>> feel pretty good about this.
>>> 
>>> The sad thing is, both people I have dealt with from that company, have
>>> been very nice, and polite. They try to be helpful. But they are
>>> ignorant in a lot of ways. I don't said that to be rude, just speaking
>>> the truth.
>>> 
>>> For instance, when I called last night to see where I could find a
>>> listing of channels, I got a very nice man on the phone. He wanted to be
>>> helpful. I told him that I was blind, and he didn't seemed as shocked as
>>> the first guy who had helped me set up my account.
>>> 
>>> However, when I told him that I wanted to hopefully find a listing of
>>> channels. He told me this was possible. I asked him where to go and he
>>> said, after you see a few pictures, keep going down a bit, and you will
>>> see a link for channels, and packages. Something like that anyway. I
>>> decided to not repeat that I was blind, and that I wouldn't see the
>>> pictures.
>>> I played around with the site, and I did find where I could view the
>>> channel listings. It of course doesn't give you a number. But you can
>>> find out what is available, and what package it is in. I found this all
>>> works better with Firefox, rather than Internet Explorer for some reason.
>>> 
>>> And Kliphton, Fox is channel 1 on mine as well. I think channel 4, or 5
>>> is Fox Midwest, as I ended up watching a little bit of a hockey game.
>>> That was cool!
>>> 
>>> I asked my roommate when he got home last night, if he would go through
>>> the channels with me, and he said yes. So I am excited about this.
>>> 
>>> Terri
>>> On 11/13/2016 8:48 AM, Kliphton Miller wrote:
>>>> yah, that’s it.  I think it depends on your area, my channel 1 is my local 
>>>> fox channel.
>>>>> On Nov 13, 2016, at 1:16 AM, Terri Stimmel <icecreamlove...@outlook.com> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Kliphton,
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> It's under guide. I played around with it, and found the channels. Of
>>>>> course, like you mentioned, it doesn't say what they are. But it lists
>>>>> the numbers, and says when I am on one. It says, sellected. I can get
>>>>> the channels to play, so far.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> I signed up for the blue, and orange package. I would like to know what
>>>>> the orange extra package is, if I plan to keep this.
>>>>> 
>>>>> By the way, apparently, channel 1 is FX.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'm sorry you have been dealing with a loss, and a funeral.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thank you for your help with this. If you think of anything else, please
>>>>> let me know.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thank you,
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Terri
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 11/12/2016 11:35 PM, Kliphton Miller wrote:
>>>>>> Maybe it is my tv, I can’t really remember, been out of town for a 
>>>>>> funeral, and haven’t watched much TV the last 2 weeks.
>>>>>>> On Nov 13, 2016, at 12:12 AM, Terri Stimmel 
>>>>>>> <icecreamlove...@outlook.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hello Kliphton, and list,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Ok, I decided to play with the Sling TV one more time. I wasn't planning
>>>>>>> on it. I had actually un-installed it. So I had to re-install it.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I had some trouble signing in, which I didn't before. So I found that to
>>>>>>> be a bit odd.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Anyway, I couldn't find a watch now option. I found my tv, on now,
>>>>>>> search, settings, and possibly something else. I just can't remember
>>>>>>> what it was. But I know for sure it wasn't watch now.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Here is where things get interesting.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I went in to the on now. I slid my finger down, and I was shocked to
>>>>>>> hear programs being announced. Now I think I could go left and right as
>>>>>>> well. But I don't remember for sure.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> It would tell me the name of the show, but not if it was a movie, or a
>>>>>>> show. Some of it was obvious. It would tell me the tv rating, the start
>>>>>>> time, but unfortunately not the channel. Also, when I entered on an
>>>>>>> option, not sure if it was a movie, it did come up. Once it came up, I
>>>>>>> learned it was an episode of Nashville.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I just found this interesting, and thought that I would pass this on. I
>>>>>>> think I will fiddle around with it a bit more.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I wish the website offered a list of channels. But I don't think they 
>>>>>>> do.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Terri
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 11/12/2016 9:57 PM, Kliphton Miller wrote:
>>>>>>>> Sorry, if you go in to on now, it doesn’t work, but watch now is where 
>>>>>>>> the channels are listed as I stated in my previous message.
>>>>>>>>> On Nov 12, 2016, at 10:56 PM, Kliphton Miller <kliph...@icloud.com> 
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I tried it, and it is usable depending on how much patients you have, 
>>>>>>>>> and if you are willing to try different methods.  Watch now wasn’t 
>>>>>>>>> accessible, adding favorites wasn’t accessible, but if you go in to 
>>>>>>>>> watch now, there is a list of channels from left to right.  Now, the 
>>>>>>>>> channels weren’t read by voiceover, but I went threw the channels 
>>>>>>>>> with my sited children, and wrote down the ones I wanted to remember 
>>>>>>>>> in a note on my iPhone.  After going threw them a few times, I 
>>>>>>>>> remember what each one was.  So, if I wanted to watch TBS, I knew it 
>>>>>>>>> was 14 of 67, if I wanted to watch oxygen, I knew it was 34 of 67, 
>>>>>>>>> and if I wanted to watch USA, I knew it was 18 of 67.  a little 
>>>>>>>>> getting use to, but that method worked for me.  I am only using it 
>>>>>>>>> until direct TV now launches its service next week, once it does, I 
>>>>>>>>> am gone!  They will be offering more channels for less. HTH
>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 12, 2016, at 10:07 PM, MamaPeach <mamape...@charter.net> 
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> When blind people tell others that something is not accessible, they 
>>>>>>>>>> provide this kind of information so others will know and not go 
>>>>>>>>>> through the struggle and stress themselves. I tend to hede warnings 
>>>>>>>>>> from others when they say something does not work with VoiceOver on 
>>>>>>>>>> any device. I was interested in Sling TV until I heard several 
>>>>>>>>>> people say not to waste my time.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- From: Terri Stimmel
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2016 7:45 PM
>>>>>>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Sling tv
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Hello everyone,
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I have heard that Sling tv is not accessible. I have heard this more
>>>>>>>>>> than once. But I was curious to try it out, because they offer a 7 
>>>>>>>>>> day
>>>>>>>>>> trial.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I had a little bit of a problem getting my account set up on the
>>>>>>>>>> website, so I called the phone number. The man I talked to was nice, 
>>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>> he really did seem rather shocked, when I told him I was totally 
>>>>>>>>>> blind.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I informed him that I tried to sign up on the site, but that it 
>>>>>>>>>> wouldn't
>>>>>>>>>> let me submit my information. He told me that this can happen, 
>>>>>>>>>> because
>>>>>>>>>> their site gets over-loaded right now, with people trying to sign 
>>>>>>>>>> up. He
>>>>>>>>>> said for some reason, it had accepted my password. That was 
>>>>>>>>>> interesting!
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> So I got all set up, and I went and installed Sling on my Apple tv. I
>>>>>>>>>> was hoping it would work, though I had my doubts.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> It doesn't work!
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I could easily sign in. But once I was signed in, I didn't get any 
>>>>>>>>>> sort
>>>>>>>>>> of feedback. So I touched the gesture area, and that got a response.
>>>>>>>>>> Sadly, I could see the menu. But anything I tried to enter on, would 
>>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>> come up.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I really think, and feel that if they would just put some effert in 
>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>> this product, it wouldn't be too difficult to make it more 
>>>>>>>>>> accessible. I
>>>>>>>>>> mean, I know nothing about making a product accessible. But you can 
>>>>>>>>>> read
>>>>>>>>>> the menu.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> So how hard can it be?
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I decided to install the App for my computer. That experience was 
>>>>>>>>>> worse
>>>>>>>>>> than my Apple tv. When I open the program, it's as though there is
>>>>>>>>>> nothing there at all. There isn't even a way to sign in.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I just thought I would share my thoughts, and experiences with you 
>>>>>>>>>> all.
>>>>>>>>>> Even if many of you already knew all this.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Thank you,
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Terri
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