I did see an article that AT&T will have a save streaming service for there customers who have direct TV, or cell service. I guess it will give them more streaming, for less money, I didn’t really read the article, since I have T mobile, and unlimited everything, the same with my home internet, I have no cap. > On Nov 13, 2016, at 4:35 PM, Terri Stimmel <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Hello Kliphton, and list, > > > I decided to call Direct tv, just to see if they could tell me anything. > > > Of course, as I expected, the lady tried to sale me internet service, > and the actual satilite service, saying that I could use their streaming > App. I told her that I didn't want that, but I appreciated the offer. > > She even told me that if I couldn't have a satilite where I lived, that > I could have it installed at another address. That was an interesting > thing to learn, I must admit. I didn't think you could do such a thing. > > But I told her that I don't have friends who would do that. LOL! > > > Anyway, she knew nothing about the Direct tv now service. Well she knew > of it after she put me on a short hold. But she had absolutely no > information on it, and she had know idea as to when it was being released. > > She told me to just watch their website, or call them. Well, ok. > > > I did find an article posted a couple of days ago. I honestly can't > remember where I found it now. It mentioned the Direct tv Now service > was supposed to be released later this week. > > However, apparently the FCC has some concerns. They are concerned that > people who have this service will be offered unlimited streaming from A > T and T, but will be billed for other streaming services, or not have > unlimited data. > > > So I guess this will have to be worked out some how. No telling how long > that might take. > > > I just thought anyone interested, might like to know. > > > Terri > > > On 11/13/2016 12:40 PM, Kliphton Miller wrote: >> Well, I can tell you that sling tv is owned by dish network, so maybe we >> should start there? >>> On Nov 13, 2016, at 12:28 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Terri and others, >>> >>> Apparently this access is important to you so why not take up the cause and >>> try to get Sling TV to make this more accessible. This may of course >>> involve more than an email via some feedback form or support email, you >>> should find out who is CEO of this company and a few other high level >>> positions, then write an actual letter, print it out and mail it via >>> registered mail to Sling TV. This way the letter needs to be signed for and >>> it will be taken more seriously. Keep a journal or log of when you send it >>> and if you receive any replies and when, of course keep copies of all >>> correspondence and if there is no reply try and take it up with maybe the >>> NFB or whatever other organisations you have, maybe see if you find an >>> investigative journalist who would champion this. Here in Canada our CBC >>> (Canadian Broadcasting Corporation) has a team called "Go Public". You can >>> send in information about your issue/fight and if they take it they'll >>> write an article in the national news, make calls and contact the involved >>> parties. Recently they had the story of a mother who had bought accidentl >>> insurance for her child. The girl was now I think 12 or so and basically >>> lost the use of one eye in a sports accident. The policy stated there >>> should have been a $50,000 payout, but of course there was fine print which >>> allowed the insurance company to get out of it (so they thought) and they >>> sent the mother a cheque for $8.40 to cover gas and milage for trips to the >>> hospital. A few days after the Go Public article came out there was a >>> follow-up article saying that hundreds of clients of said insurance company >>> had called in to cancel their policies, it was all over social media and a >>> few days after that it was reported that the mother and insurance company >>> had settled, the amount was not disclosed but the mother said it was a >>> satisfactory result, the insurance company apologized and said it was their >>> goal to provide the best possible service and so on and so on. >>> This goes to show the power of the media and especially social media once >>> something hits Facebook, Twitter and Instagram. It is of course a lot of >>> work and any letter you write must be unfailingly polite, objective and >>> give the company (Sling TV) a chance to investigate and respond, it is a >>> lot of work, but depending on what your work is and how much time you have >>> it can produce real results. If nobody ever did these sorts of things and >>> advocated for whatever cause or group we wouldn't be where we are now in >>> terms of accessibility and acceptance of various disabilities and minority >>> groups. I'm not saying we live in a perfect time, we are far from that, but >>> after all not that long ago women and black people couldn't even vote let >>> along run for the office of President of the United States. >>> >>> >>> Regards, >>> Sieghard >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf >>> Of Terri Stimmel >>> Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2016 7:32 AM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: Sling tv >>> >>> Hi Bob, Kliphton, and list, >>> >>> Yes Bob, I will be able to cancel my subscription. I made sure of this. >>> Or I mean, trial. >>> I asked the man on the phone yesterday, that if for some reason I couldn't >>> cancel online, could I call and cancel. He told me yes there would be no >>> problem with that, and that I could even email them. So I feel pretty good >>> about this. >>> >>> The sad thing is, both people I have dealt with from that company, have >>> been very nice, and polite. They try to be helpful. But they are ignorant >>> in a lot of ways. I don't said that to be rude, just speaking the truth. >>> >>> For instance, when I called last night to see where I could find a listing >>> of channels, I got a very nice man on the phone. He wanted to be helpful. I >>> told him that I was blind, and he didn't seemed as shocked as the first guy >>> who had helped me set up my account. >>> >>> However, when I told him that I wanted to hopefully find a listing of >>> channels. He told me this was possible. I asked him where to go and he >>> said, after you see a few pictures, keep going down a bit, and you will see >>> a link for channels, and packages. Something like that anyway. I decided to >>> not repeat that I was blind, and that I wouldn't see the pictures. >>> I played around with the site, and I did find where I could view the >>> channel listings. It of course doesn't give you a number. But you can find >>> out what is available, and what package it is in. I found this all works >>> better with Firefox, rather than Internet Explorer for some reason. >>> >>> And Kliphton, Fox is channel 1 on mine as well. I think channel 4, or 5 is >>> Fox Midwest, as I ended up watching a little bit of a hockey game. >>> That was cool! >>> >>> I asked my roommate when he got home last night, if he would go through the >>> channels with me, and he said yes. So I am excited about this. >>> >>> Terri >>> On 11/13/2016 8:48 AM, Kliphton Miller wrote: >>>> yah, that’s it. I think it depends on your area, my channel 1 is my local >>>> fox channel. >>>>> On Nov 13, 2016, at 1:16 AM, Terri Stimmel <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi Kliphton, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> It's under guide. I played around with it, and found the channels. Of >>>>> course, like you mentioned, it doesn't say what they are. But it >>>>> lists the numbers, and says when I am on one. It says, sellected. I >>>>> can get the channels to play, so far. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I signed up for the blue, and orange package. I would like to know >>>>> what the orange extra package is, if I plan to keep this. >>>>> >>>>> By the way, apparently, channel 1 is FX. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I'm sorry you have been dealing with a loss, and a funeral. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Thank you for your help with this. If you think of anything else, >>>>> please let me know. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Thank you, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Terri >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 11/12/2016 11:35 PM, Kliphton Miller wrote: >>>>>> Maybe it is my tv, I can’t really remember, been out of town for a >>>>>> funeral, and haven’t watched much TV the last 2 weeks. >>>>>>> On Nov 13, 2016, at 12:12 AM, Terri Stimmel >>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hello Kliphton, and list, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Ok, I decided to play with the Sling TV one more time. I wasn't >>>>>>> planning on it. I had actually un-installed it. So I had to re-install >>>>>>> it. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I had some trouble signing in, which I didn't before. So I found >>>>>>> that to be a bit odd. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Anyway, I couldn't find a watch now option. I found my tv, on now, >>>>>>> search, settings, and possibly something else. I just can't >>>>>>> remember what it was. But I know for sure it wasn't watch now. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Here is where things get interesting. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I went in to the on now. I slid my finger down, and I was shocked >>>>>>> to hear programs being announced. Now I think I could go left and >>>>>>> right as well. But I don't remember for sure. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It would tell me the name of the show, but not if it was a movie, >>>>>>> or a show. Some of it was obvious. It would tell me the tv rating, >>>>>>> the start time, but unfortunately not the channel. Also, when I >>>>>>> entered on an option, not sure if it was a movie, it did come up. >>>>>>> Once it came up, I learned it was an episode of Nashville. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I just found this interesting, and thought that I would pass this >>>>>>> on. I think I will fiddle around with it a bit more. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I wish the website offered a list of channels. But I don't think they >>>>>>> do. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Terri >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 11/12/2016 9:57 PM, Kliphton Miller wrote: >>>>>>>> Sorry, if you go in to on now, it doesn’t work, but watch now is where >>>>>>>> the channels are listed as I stated in my previous message. >>>>>>>>> On Nov 12, 2016, at 10:56 PM, Kliphton Miller <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I tried it, and it is usable depending on how much patients you >>>>>>>>> have, and if you are willing to try different methods. Watch now >>>>>>>>> wasn’t accessible, adding favorites wasn’t accessible, but if you >>>>>>>>> go in to watch now, there is a list of channels from left to >>>>>>>>> right. Now, the channels weren’t read by voiceover, but I went >>>>>>>>> threw the channels with my sited children, and wrote down the >>>>>>>>> ones I wanted to remember in a note on my iPhone. After going >>>>>>>>> threw them a few times, I remember what each one was. So, if I >>>>>>>>> wanted to watch TBS, I knew it was 14 of 67, if I wanted to watch >>>>>>>>> oxygen, I knew it was 34 of 67, and if I wanted to watch USA, I >>>>>>>>> knew it was 18 of 67. a little getting use to, but that method >>>>>>>>> worked for me. I am only using it until direct TV now launches >>>>>>>>> its service next week, once it does, I am gone! They will be >>>>>>>>> offering more channels for less. HTH >>>>>>>>>> On Nov 12, 2016, at 10:07 PM, MamaPeach <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> When blind people tell others that something is not accessible, they >>>>>>>>>> provide this kind of information so others will know and not go >>>>>>>>>> through the struggle and stress themselves. I tend to hede warnings >>>>>>>>>> from others when they say something does not work with VoiceOver on >>>>>>>>>> any device. I was interested in Sling TV until I heard several >>>>>>>>>> people say not to waste my time. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- From: Terri Stimmel >>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2016 7:45 PM >>>>>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>>>>> Subject: Sling tv >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hello everyone, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I have heard that Sling tv is not accessible. I have heard this >>>>>>>>>> more than once. But I was curious to try it out, because they >>>>>>>>>> offer a 7 day trial. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I had a little bit of a problem getting my account set up on the >>>>>>>>>> website, so I called the phone number. The man I talked to was >>>>>>>>>> nice, but he really did seem rather shocked, when I told him I was >>>>>>>>>> totally blind. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I informed him that I tried to sign up on the site, but that it >>>>>>>>>> wouldn't let me submit my information. He told me that this can >>>>>>>>>> happen, because their site gets over-loaded right now, with >>>>>>>>>> people trying to sign up. He said for some reason, it had accepted >>>>>>>>>> my password. That was interesting! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> So I got all set up, and I went and installed Sling on my Apple >>>>>>>>>> tv. I was hoping it would work, though I had my doubts. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> It doesn't work! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I could easily sign in. But once I was signed in, I didn't get >>>>>>>>>> any sort of feedback. So I touched the gesture area, and that got a >>>>>>>>>> response. >>>>>>>>>> Sadly, I could see the menu. But anything I tried to enter on, >>>>>>>>>> would not come up. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I really think, and feel that if they would just put some effert >>>>>>>>>> in to this product, it wouldn't be too difficult to make it more >>>>>>>>>> accessible. I mean, I know nothing about making a product >>>>>>>>>> accessible. But you can read the menu. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> So how hard can it be? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I decided to install the App for my computer. That experience >>>>>>>>>> was worse than my Apple tv. When I open the program, it's as >>>>>>>>>> though there is nothing there at all. 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