Pablo take care of you, that I take care of myself.
I know very well what I'm talking about.
Some messages in the group make me laugh. And where is the problem?
Laughing is not insulting
But calling me troll, this is insult.
Do you really think these people are more Educated than I am?
I know very well with  who I'm dealing.
I consider you a friend, but I don't need you give me advices
take care yourself.
cheers.




Às 22:30 de 18/12/2016, Pablo C. Morales escreveu:

Hi Mario,

I don’t know what is wrong with your system, but I have the last iTunes update, and the last jaws 18 update, and yes, the accessibility is really good. I recommend that you uninstall iTunes and make sure that you are running the last version of Jaws 18. Then reinstall iTunes. You might need to download the program again from the apple web site.

One more thing Mario that I would like to recommend. I understand your frustration, however if you highlight so much over and over , it could create a negative impact on your purpose. I think that your purpose is that apple improve the accessibility in your devices, right?

Ok, that target was already achieved. A lot of people understood that the last IOs have some bugs that affect you as a visual impaired, and a lot of people that is no visual impaired. Right here you should be happy and relax. If you continue you are going to destroy everything that you have achieved.

*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Mário Gabriel
*Sent:* Sunday, December 18, 2016 1:40 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: Apple is not doing their Job???



Man you make me laugh
In my iTunes 12.5.4.latest update, the accessibility enhancements that you talk simply do not exist. Does Apple like you more than some people in the group who did not have the magic of accessibility improvements in their iTunes apps?

Whatever they did, it not worked.
And you know why? Because they did nothing.
Keep dreaming, this is what is happening in your heads.
Sure you still want to write to Apple and thank them for the complete turnaround they made with the latest iTunes version?
cheers.




Às 23:25 de 17/12/2016, englishride...@gmail.com <mailto:englishride...@gmail.com> escreveu:

    I also think we need to write to Apple and thank them for the
    complete turnaround they made with the latest iTunes version. I
    haven't checked on file sharing yet, but managing your iPhone's
    content has once more become accessible. Whatever they did, it worked.

    Thanks,

    Ari


    On Dec 17, 2016, at 7:40 AM, Hope Paulos <hope.pau...@gmail.com
    <mailto:hope.pau...@gmail.com>> wrote:

        Diane. This is well-said. I’ve put off commenting about this
        thread because I don’t want to really get involved. Apple is a
        huge corperation and if customers don’t come to them with a
        problem, they cannot fix it. I work in customer service and
        while we deal with irate customers who want their product to
        work correctly, we are more likely to listen and respond to
        those customers who approach us with kindness and explain the
        problem  they experience in detail. In other words, if apple
        doesn’t know it’s broken, they can’t fix it. I urge everyone
        to write accessibil...@apple.com
        <mailto:accessibil...@apple.com> and explain whatever problem
        they’re having. I assure you, that in time, apple will indeed
        fix the problem.

        Hope Paulos

        *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com
        <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
        [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Dianne Phelps
        *Sent:* Friday, December 16, 2016 6:06 PM
        *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
        *Subject:* Apple is not doing their Job???

        I have bitten my writing tongue for some time since IOS 10
        came out. I don’t know where the moderators are for this list;
        but this topic needs a healthy and fast stop.

        Apple is not the only corporation making changes to software
        which either change or make more difficult our use of the
        technology we have come to depend upon. AVG has now become
        incompatible with JAWS for version 18. I went to download the
        new version the other night, and it locked up my tablet to the
        point where I had to make a mad dash to see my computer guys
        at Staples to help me dig it out.

        The fact is software always comes out with bugs. I didn’t
        understand that in the beginning of the whole computer
        revolution, and I still don’t; however, this is the way it is.
        As consumers, we must act accordingly. We can either find
        work-arounds, change devices or wait for the next update.
        Whining about it isn’t going to make it be fixed any faster,
        and approaching the manufactures and writers of software with
        the negative tone I have seen by some on this list won’t get
        anything done faster and might even curtail Apple’s
        willingness to work at any of this.

        Furthermore, turning this into a racial discrimination matter
        is just beyond ridiculous. STOP IT RIGHT NOW!!!

        This list and its members just aren’t like that, and bringing
        that issue into the discussion here is appalling .

        We are all facing problems as technology changes, and all I
        can think of is that we have way more than some of us had when
        growing up. People who want things to change could study and
        major in computer programming and engineering and work in the
        field as so many, including some on this list have done.
        Having intelligent conversations with tech support, offering
        suggestions might help. But, the vitriol won’t get us anywhere.

        I am sorry to get upon my 67-year-old high horse, but knock it
        off right now! Do something positive to help the situation
        rather than wasting time whining and complaining.

        Annoyed with this nonsense,

        Dianne and Hibiscus

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