I hope this reply to some of Sieghard's comments isn't deemed
inappropriate since it relates to wear and tear on our devices.
I was in a store buying a microscope lens to fit over the camera lens
on my iphone. When I took the cover off the phone, the sales person just about
sneezed as some dog hair went flying. So, lesson learned, the cases need
removing frequently cause dog hair gets under there too!
I dont' have those wall hoses but wish I did! Even so I would be vacuuming
twice a day if I wanted this place relatively clean of dog hair. Years ago, I
removed almost all rugs but I've got lots of floor and a ridiculously constant
shedding dog who I groom almost every day. If she were a swimmer I'm sure the
situation would vastly improve. I don't bathe her and she never smells but
those finer hairs definitely need a brush not comb and a good hose down.
Cork floors feel nice. I thought I'd tested them out and that if they get wet
they get dangerously slippery. Is that so? You can write me privately about
that! deidreandlouise@gmail.
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 7:00 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: the cost of staying connected
Hi Deidre,
First of all, no iPhone ever made starting with the original iPhone 10 years
ago had a removable battery.
Second, the new touch screens on phones like the 6S/6S Plus and 7/7 Plus are
using a different technology, they can make the hole phone thinner partly
because they can make the screen thinner, but one thing which won't happen is
hat a "layer of grime" builds up on an iPhone screen. As long as you clean the
glass it is clean, if you don't then it is not.
I also have had guide dogs for the last 23 years and yes, they do shed, dog
hair does end up in furnace filters and in computer fans a bit, of course how
much all depends on how often you brush your dog and how often you clean your
house. Carpets of course don't help which is why I have gotten rid of all
carpets in my house, the bedrooms are all cork flooring which is still warm and
as it is free-floating on the subfloor I find it quite pleasant and it is ever
so much easier to clean that, hardwood or tile. We have a central vac and even
though we have no carpets we still vacuum the floor because it picks up all the
dog hair instead of just swirling it around which is what mostly happens if you
sweep.
Anyhow, your new phone is also so much faster which also contributes to the
feeling that it is very sensitive and responsive.
Regards,
Sieghard
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
deidre muccio
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 1:18 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: the cost of staying connected
My new phone is silky and responsive to the slightest touch. I tried to do the
set up but got stuck when it was calling for the old sim card. btw, at the
Verizon Store they told me the Iphone 6 had no removable battery. Is that true?
The old iphone had a thick piece of glass on it and was nowhere near as
instantaneously responsive. I suppose an old phone has a build up of grime on
it even if you consistently clean it. Unfortunately I have a dog that sheds a
lot, and I have to hand it to Apple for having an ear phone jack and charging
port that has not gone dead after a year due to the hair that flies through the
air here. It doesn't even matter if I vacuum twice a day, their is almost
always a film of hair that settles on the floor even if it is not visible to
anyone. The external speakers on my Victor Reader and my GPS from Humanware
both died after a year. I would have had to pay $150 just to send one or the
other of them back to be looked at. Someone who takes apart tiny things said it
was the dog hair that had gotten in there.
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 4:41 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: the cost of staying connected
I totally agree that many want the latest and upgrading every year or every two
years is somewhat expensive. Some may argue that they have this great plan from
their provider which lets them upgrade every year, but of course if you really
look at it you will find out that no provider does this out of the goodness of
their hearts and in the end you pay through the nose for such a privilege. Then
there are those who have multiple smartphones like an Android and an iPhone in
order to "stay current with technology" or to "have the best of both worlds".
Also some have multiple iDevices and to me that is also a waste of money. At
one point I decided to keep my old 5S around and use it at home on WiFi but I
quickly realized that I rarely did and always used my new 6S Plus anyways and
while I can see how the large screen of an iPad is attractive for sighted
people, it doesn't do much for me. I have read messages on here from people who
have a very limited income yet they have an iPhone and an iPad, an Apple TV and
multiple music and TV streaming services and I sort of wonder if they don't
realize that all of this adds up to be a pretty significant cost, at the same
time some of the same people complain about some of the expensive apps like
KNFB Reader or about paying $5 a month for having a Jaws SMA (it's $120 every
two years so it does work out to be just $5 a month which is half of what most
of us pay for Apple Music or Spotify).
I think Deidre does have a point, but unless you are mostly at home where a
landline does the trick and maybe a pay as you go flipphone is enough for the
odd time you go somewhere, I think the additional cost for a smartphone plan is
justifiable considering what a smartphone offers (GPS, OCR anywhere you go,
accessible texting etc.). For anybody who is working or running a business it
is more or less essential nowadays, I need access to my email, often apps are
easier to use than websites when it comes to making a quick online banking
transaction, posting something on Facebook, tracking a package or even
maintaining your profiles for Google My Business and so on. At times I can
actually be away from my business to do something personal or recreational
simply because I am still connected and able to do something if I have to. In a
way it's not so different for a sighted person with cars. How many couples have
a car each, it costs a lot to buy the thing in the first place and thousands
and thousands each year for insurance, gas, parking and repairs/maintenance.
Especially if you live in the city you could probably get by using public
transportation and take a cab or an Uber when you have to, most of us who don't
have sighted partners who drive do it all the time. But being able to jump into
a car any time you want for a quick trip somewhere is just so convenient. I
live in a rather small town of about 6,000 people, our one local cab company
doesn't even use a meter, they charge $8 for a trip in town no matter if it's
half a mile from the grocery store back to my house or 2 miles from one side of
town to the other. If you do a return trip inside I think an hour or hour and a
half then it's $11 for both. My wife is sighted but has epilepsy so can't drive
either and we spend maybe $1,000 a year on cab rides for times when the weather
is bad, we have more than we can or want to carry etc. If we owned a car I'd
spend that alone on insurance let alone buying gas, new tires or dividing the
initial purchase price by the lifespan of the vehicle.
Interestingly enough people often buy used cars, sometimes cheap old beaters
but few of us buy a used iPhone that is 2 years old even though in many cases
it would do the trick as well and it would save you a fair bit since it is much
cheaper to buy and you could get any post-paid or pre-paid plan you want since
no carrier can ask you to sign up for a 2-year contract on some expensive plan.
Regards,
Sieghard
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
Kelly Pierce
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 8:19 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: the cost of staying connected
My observation is that people upgrade too early. If folks kept their iPhone
for four years instead of two, the annual cost of an iPhone would be
substantially reduced. I did this when I bought my iPhone 5 in 2012 and then
upgraded to an iPhone 7 in 2016, selling my iPhone 5 on Craigslist for $120.
Further, when I first started out, I did not use the phone much and had a
prepaid service for $16 a month where I had 100 minutes, 100 texts and 500 MB
of data a month. Now I use my phone a lot more and pay $31 including taxes for
2 GB of data with unlimited talk and texts. This level of service should be
plenty for virtually all blind users who can jump on WIFI every so often for
app updates and downloads along with downloading podcasts and audio books.
For most people, paying more for cell phone service is unnecessary.
Kelly
On 5/24/17, MamaPeach <[email protected]> wrote:
> That is what I did, I gave up my iPhone, and am now using a simple
> flip phone that does have speech and it only costs me $25 every 30
> days through Walmart's Total Wireless unlimited talk and text plan. We
> cut cable and now
>
> only use NetFlix and Hulu for watching TV shows and movies. We pay
> $64.99 for our internet each month, which allows me to do what I want
> and I do have
>
> an iPod that allows me to connect to our wifi to do anything else I
> want to
>
> do using that device.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Richard Turner
> Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 3:18 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: the cost of staying connected
>
>
> You cannot listen to your books outside with the computer unless you
> got some kind of wireless speaker system.
> But, you could do everything but the phone calls and internet stuff on
> an iPod Touch.
> If you have wifi at home anyway, then no extra monthly fee.
> Ditch the iPhone and get a simple, inexpensive phone for times when
> you are
>
> away from home.
> Or, keep the iPhone and decide all that convenience is worth the money.
> Just my two cents worth.
> Richard
>
>
>> On May 24, 2017, at 8:50 AM, deidre muccio <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>
>> In the last day, I have had cause to think of the cost of staying
>> connected via an i phone.
>> First off we all pay a monthly service charge perhaps starting
>> around $50. Put another $7 or more on for insurance if you buy it.
>> Then there is the cost of the phone which can be dirt cheap if it is
>> your first phone provided by a carrier you have been with for a long
>> time. Once that phone needs replacing however, let's say, 2 years and
>> a few months, you are in for purchasing a new phone or a used one, or
>> might pay a $200 deductible on one that your insurance coverage will
>> replace due to hardware damage.
>> Add
>> this all up, and it's thousands of dollars over a mere 2 year period.
>> I have to ask what the true value is in all this?
>> On the practical, not philosophical front, I am paying for the
>> convenience and portability of a phone that I can make calls on and
>> text with, and I can do all the information sharing and web
>> searching, social networking, watch movies, listen to podcasts, read
>> books, etc all on the run or away from home. Other than phone service
>> and texting, all of this I can do on my desktop computer for the
>> price of my internet service.
>> What would I be missing if I gave this all up? Yesterday, I
>> seriously thought of buying a monthly phone service for $25 and
>> giving the rest up. Has anyone tried doing that lately? I'd like to
>> hear about it!
>> Are
>> you planning more hikes or tandem bike rides?
>> How I love my phone! I love lying in bed or cleaning house and
>> moving my phone from room to room while I listen to a podcast, a
>> replay of a news show, or a book. Again, I could do all this on a
>> desktop computer provided the volume on my speakers reached the far
>> rooms. I doubt I'd miss not getting calls or texts while away from
>> home unless I was traveling out of State. Admittedly, the cheapest
>> cell phone service I was able to purchase was $39 per month so the
>> additional cost to text and have a phone with voice over menus is
>> definitely superior to that.
>> I wonder if I've already nearly fully answered my question cause
>> I'm sitting here smiling broadly as I write this. Still, I conclude
>> that I'm crazy for putting out the money to entertain myself around
>> the clock, not unlike an avid TV watcher, when I could be out
>> gardening or I could spend more time at the gym, or finishing a novel
>> and/or the few short stories in the works! I could even get some kind
>> of volunteer job. I will say that when I do work for pay, my work
>> being as a masseuse, I do not use my phone at all.
>> One good thing, I guess, is that if I go silent, friends might
>> inquire as to whether or not I am still alive, so for safety's sake,
>> I guess that detail gets racked up in the plus column.
>> I did not write or dictate this using my phone. I am typing away
>> on a full keyboard, which is far more comfortable and affords much
>> more time for thinking. If I could word process using a full keyboard
>> or a dictation program that would allow you to dictate unlimited
>> text, I'd trash the desktop pronto. Oh, no no no, having a iphone on
>> the blink for the past day was bad enough, we'll always need back up,
>> now won't we?
>>
>> Deidre
>> Deidre
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