Hi Deidre, You can have DSL without a phone line, I got rid of my home landline almost 10 years ago once I had a more or less unlimited cell phone plan anyways I didn't see a point in paying for a landline as well and I just converted it to what some carriers here in Canada call "Dark ADSL" which means you only have ADSL but not phone service. Now I have a fibre connection, but not having the landline saved me about $30 a month. I know by now and especially in larger cities even here in Canada a landline may not cost so much any more, but I am in a small town up North and everything is a bit more expensive here.
-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of deidre muccio Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2017 3:16 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: the cost of staying connected Kelly I wasn't bitching about costs, I was inquiring about costs! I was asking myself the question what it was all worth! I don't even use cellular data, rarely, I mainly use my phone via Wi-Fi. My main cost does come from the mobile phone service which I've concluded overtime is a safety issue for me being blind. It's good that I can call if I am somehow get lost or need to be meeting someone and they don't show up. Things like that. Otherwise, as Richard said in one of the first post on this topic, I could just use an iPod touch. Or a desktop computer. Though the desktop would not be as portable as let's say an iPod touch or a laptop computer. Or, as I did when I first converted to iPhone, are used a throwaway for Alice which I still own that had once belong to a friend. That's the phone I learned on. It was fun. And then I had a Sim card put in to the for S and I use it as a phone and that only cost me $25 a month. It took Verizon about six months to convince me to convert from mild mobile phone and update to an iPhone. I don't think I regretted it, though the cost isn't the cheapest. 50 bucks a month plus I buy insurance. Then of course I still have to keep the landline for the DSL so I get stuck there too. Sent from my iPhone > On May 27, 2017, at 9:30 PM, Kelly Pierce <[email protected]> wrote: > > Deidre, > > > why bitch about the high cost of cellular service when you say you > want premium cell phone service from the broadest network possible. > Premium services mean premium prices and the wireless industry is no > exception. as stated earlier on the list, T-Mobile has most of its > frequencies at the high end of the wireless spectrum. this means its > signals might not penetrate buildings or extend as Farr as those from > other carriers. This is particularly so outside the major metro > areas. Every carrier does not have great coverage in every region of > the country. It is important for a consumer to know the coverage > quality of the various carriers in his area. > > Kelly > >> On 5/27/17, Deidre Muccio <[email protected]> wrote: >> I am so accustomed to having coverage no matter where I go and that I >> wouldn't be able to tolerate not having coverage at the local >> university or as you say a relatives house. I I know others that use >> T-Mobile that have this issue as well so I haven't sprung for that. >> For the most part I'm happy with what I've got. It's not cheap but at >> some point if I can no longer afford it now pare down the service! >> >> Deidre >> >> >>> On May 27, 2017, at 2:53 PM, Chip Orange <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> I hate that line ... especially from someone who is blind, who >>> probably benefitted most of his life from special programs, tax >>> breaks, etc. for the blind, paid for by taxes. >>> >>> Chip >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >>> Behalf Of deidre muccio >>> Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 4:00 PM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: RE: the cost of staying connected >>> >>> Love that line "I pay a severe premium for living in a Socialist >>> Paradise." I hope you were not being mocking, or were you. >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >>> Behalf Of Kelly Pierce >>> Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 2:07 PM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: the cost of staying connected >>> >>> The company is TPO Mobile, the People's Operator. It is a mobile >>> virtual network operator off the T-Mobile network. It is available >>> only in the United States. I found it using the website MVNO News, >>> which identifies the companies with the best deals. The price >>> includes Chicago taxes and will likely be lower in the rest of the >>> country. I pay a severe premium for living in a socialist paradise with >>> its outrageous taxes. >>> >>> >>> MVNO news also lists deals from other carriers, including a new deal >>> from a Verizon MVNO. >>> >>> Kelly >>> >>>> On 5/25/17, deidre muccio <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> Who is charging you 31 including all taxes and fees? >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>>> On May 24, 2017, at 11:19 PM, Kelly Pierce <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> My observation is that people upgrade too early. If folks kept >>>>> their iPhone for four years instead of two, the annual cost of an >>>>> iPhone would be substantially reduced. I did this when I bought >>>>> my iPhone 5 in 2012 and then upgraded to an iPhone 7 in 2016, >>>>> selling my iPhone 5 on Craigslist for $120. Further, when I first >>>>> started out, I did not use the phone much and had a prepaid >>>>> service for $16 a month where I had 100 minutes, 100 texts and 500 >>>>> MB of data a month. Now I use my phone a lot more and pay $31 >>>>> including taxes for 2 GB of data with unlimited talk and texts. >>>>> This level of service should be plenty for virtually all blind >>>>> users who can jump on WIFI every so often for app updates and downloads >>>>> along with downloading podcasts and audio books. >>>>> For most people, paying more for cell phone service is unnecessary. >>>>> >>>>> Kelly >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On 5/24/17, MamaPeach <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> That is what I did, I gave up my iPhone, and am now using a >>>>>> simple flip phone that does have speech and it only costs me $25 >>>>>> every 30 days through Walmart's Total Wireless unlimited talk and text >>>>>> plan. >>>>>> We cut cable and now >>>>>> >>>>>> only use NetFlix and Hulu for watching TV shows and movies. We >>>>>> pay >>>>>> $64.99 >>>>>> for our internet each month, which allows me to do what I want >>>>>> and I do have >>>>>> >>>>>> an iPod that allows me to connect to our wifi to do anything else >>>>>> I want to >>>>>> >>>>>> do using that device. >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: Richard Turner >>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 3:18 PM >>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>> Subject: Re: the cost of staying connected >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> You cannot listen to your books outside with the computer unless >>>>>> you got some kind of wireless speaker system. >>>>>> But, you could do everything but the phone calls and internet >>>>>> stuff on an iPod Touch. >>>>>> If you have wifi at home anyway, then no extra monthly fee. >>>>>> Ditch the iPhone and get a simple, inexpensive phone for times >>>>>> when you are >>>>>> >>>>>> away from home. >>>>>> Or, keep the iPhone and decide all that convenience is worth the >>>>>> money. >>>>>> Just my two cents worth. >>>>>> Richard >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> On May 24, 2017, at 8:50 AM, deidre muccio <[email protected]> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In the last day, I have had cause to think of the cost of >>>>>>> staying connected via an i phone. >>>>>>> First off we all pay a monthly service charge perhaps starting >>>>>>> around $50. Put another $7 or more on for insurance if you buy it. >>>>>>> Then there is the cost of the phone which can be dirt cheap if >>>>>>> it is your first phone provided by a carrier you have been with >>>>>>> for a long time. Once that phone needs replacing however, let's >>>>>>> say, 2 years and a few months, you are in for purchasing a new >>>>>>> phone or a used one, or might pay a $200 deductible on one that >>>>>>> your insurance coverage will replace due to hardware damage. >>>>>>> Add >>>>>>> this all up, and it's thousands of dollars over a mere 2 year period. >>>>>>> I have to ask what the true value is in all this? >>>>>>> On the practical, not philosophical front, I am paying for the >>>>>>> convenience and portability of a phone that I can make calls on >>>>>>> and text with, and I can do all the information sharing and web >>>>>>> searching, social networking, watch movies, listen to podcasts, >>>>>>> read books, etc all on the run or away from home. Other than >>>>>>> phone service and texting, all of this I can do on my desktop >>>>>>> computer for the price of my internet service. >>>>>>> What would I be missing if I gave this all up? Yesterday, I >>>>>>> seriously thought of buying a monthly phone service for $25 and >>>>>>> giving the rest up. Has anyone tried doing that lately? I'd like >>>>>>> to hear about it! >>>>>>> Are >>>>>>> you planning more hikes or tandem bike rides? >>>>>>> How I love my phone! I love lying in bed or cleaning house >>>>>>> and moving my phone from room to room while I listen to a >>>>>>> podcast, a replay of a news show, or a book. Again, I could do >>>>>>> all this on a desktop computer provided the volume on my >>>>>>> speakers reached the far rooms. I doubt I'd miss not getting >>>>>>> calls or texts while away from home unless I was traveling out >>>>>>> of State. Admittedly, the cheapest cell phone service I was able >>>>>>> to purchase was $39 per month so the additional cost to text and >>>>>>> have a phone with voice over menus is definitely superior to that. >>>>>>> I wonder if I've already nearly fully answered my question cause >>>>>>> I'm sitting here smiling broadly as I write this. Still, I >>>>>>> conclude that I'm crazy for putting out the money to entertain >>>>>>> myself around the clock, not unlike an avid TV watcher, when I >>>>>>> could be out gardening or I could spend more time at the gym, or >>>>>>> finishing a novel and/or the few short stories in the works! I >>>>>>> could even get some kind of volunteer job. I will say that when >>>>>>> I do work for pay, my work being as a masseuse, I do not use my phone >>>>>>> at all. >>>>>>> One good thing, I guess, is that if I go silent, friends might >>>>>>> inquire as to whether or not I am still alive, so for safety's >>>>>>> sake, I guess that detail gets racked up in the plus column. >>>>>>> I did not write or dictate this using my phone. I am typing away >>>>>>> on a full keyboard, which is far more comfortable and affords >>>>>>> much more time for thinking. If I could word process using a >>>>>>> full keyboard or a dictation program that would allow you to >>>>>>> dictate unlimited text, I'd trash the desktop pronto. 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