I have to second the ability to have DSL without a landline. I'm on Oahu, in Hawaii, and we don't have a landline, just the flip-up phone.
More Later, Dani On 5/28/17, Sieghard Weitzel <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Deidre, > > You can have DSL without a phone line, I got rid of my home landline almost > 10 years ago once I had a more or less unlimited cell phone plan anyways I > didn't see a point in paying for a landline as well and I just converted it > to what some carriers here in Canada call "Dark ADSL" which means you only > have ADSL but not phone service. Now I have a fibre connection, but not > having the landline saved me about $30 a month. I know by now and especially > in larger cities even here in Canada a landline may not cost so much any > more, but I am in a small town up North and everything is a bit more > expensive here. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf > Of deidre muccio > Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2017 3:16 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: the cost of staying connected > > Kelly > I wasn't bitching about costs, I was inquiring about costs! I was asking > myself the question what it was all worth! I don't even use cellular data, > rarely, I mainly use my phone via Wi-Fi. My main cost does come from the > mobile phone service which I've concluded overtime is a safety issue for me > being blind. It's good that I can call if I am somehow get lost or need to > be meeting someone and they don't show up. Things like that. Otherwise, as > Richard said in one of the first post on this topic, I could just use an > iPod touch. Or a desktop computer. Though the desktop would not be as > portable as let's say an iPod touch or a laptop computer. Or, as I did when > I first converted to iPhone, are used a throwaway for Alice which I still > own that had once belong to a friend. That's the phone I learned on. It was > fun. And then I had a Sim card put in to the for S and I use it as a phone > and that only cost me $25 a month. It took Verizon about six months to > convince me to convert from mild mobile phone and update to an iPhone. I > don't think I regretted it, though the cost isn't the cheapest. 50 bucks a > month plus I buy insurance. Then of course I still have to keep the landline > for the DSL so I get stuck there too. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On May 27, 2017, at 9:30 PM, Kelly Pierce <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Deidre, >> >> >> why bitch about the high cost of cellular service when you say you >> want premium cell phone service from the broadest network possible. >> Premium services mean premium prices and the wireless industry is no >> exception. as stated earlier on the list, T-Mobile has most of its >> frequencies at the high end of the wireless spectrum. this means its >> signals might not penetrate buildings or extend as Farr as those from >> other carriers. This is particularly so outside the major metro >> areas. Every carrier does not have great coverage in every region of >> the country. It is important for a consumer to know the coverage >> quality of the various carriers in his area. >> >> Kelly >> >>> On 5/27/17, Deidre Muccio <[email protected]> wrote: >>> I am so accustomed to having coverage no matter where I go and that I >>> wouldn't be able to tolerate not having coverage at the local >>> university or as you say a relatives house. I I know others that use >>> T-Mobile that have this issue as well so I haven't sprung for that. >>> For the most part I'm happy with what I've got. It's not cheap but at >>> some point if I can no longer afford it now pare down the service! >>> >>> Deidre >>> >>> >>>> On May 27, 2017, at 2:53 PM, Chip Orange <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> I hate that line ... especially from someone who is blind, who >>>> probably benefitted most of his life from special programs, tax >>>> breaks, etc. for the blind, paid for by taxes. >>>> >>>> Chip >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >>>> Behalf Of deidre muccio >>>> Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 4:00 PM >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Subject: RE: the cost of staying connected >>>> >>>> Love that line "I pay a severe premium for living in a Socialist >>>> Paradise." I hope you were not being mocking, or were you. >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >>>> Behalf Of Kelly Pierce >>>> Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 2:07 PM >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Subject: Re: the cost of staying connected >>>> >>>> The company is TPO Mobile, the People's Operator. It is a mobile >>>> virtual network operator off the T-Mobile network. It is available >>>> only in the United States. I found it using the website MVNO News, >>>> which identifies the companies with the best deals. The price >>>> includes Chicago taxes and will likely be lower in the rest of the >>>> country. I pay a severe premium for living in a socialist paradise with >>>> its outrageous taxes. >>>> >>>> >>>> MVNO news also lists deals from other carriers, including a new deal >>>> from a Verizon MVNO. >>>> >>>> Kelly >>>> >>>>> On 5/25/17, deidre muccio <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> Who is charging you 31 including all taxes and fees? >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>>> On May 24, 2017, at 11:19 PM, Kelly Pierce <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> My observation is that people upgrade too early. If folks kept >>>>>> their iPhone for four years instead of two, the annual cost of an >>>>>> iPhone would be substantially reduced. I did this when I bought >>>>>> my iPhone 5 in 2012 and then upgraded to an iPhone 7 in 2016, >>>>>> selling my iPhone 5 on Craigslist for $120. Further, when I first >>>>>> started out, I did not use the phone much and had a prepaid >>>>>> service for $16 a month where I had 100 minutes, 100 texts and 500 >>>>>> MB of data a month. Now I use my phone a lot more and pay $31 >>>>>> including taxes for 2 GB of data with unlimited talk and texts. >>>>>> This level of service should be plenty for virtually all blind >>>>>> users who can jump on WIFI every so often for app updates and >>>>>> downloads along with downloading podcasts and audio books. >>>>>> For most people, paying more for cell phone service is unnecessary. >>>>>> >>>>>> Kelly >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 5/24/17, MamaPeach <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> That is what I did, I gave up my iPhone, and am now using a >>>>>>> simple flip phone that does have speech and it only costs me $25 >>>>>>> every 30 days through Walmart's Total Wireless unlimited talk and >>>>>>> text plan. >>>>>>> We cut cable and now >>>>>>> >>>>>>> only use NetFlix and Hulu for watching TV shows and movies. We >>>>>>> pay >>>>>>> $64.99 >>>>>>> for our internet each month, which allows me to do what I want >>>>>>> and I do have >>>>>>> >>>>>>> an iPod that allows me to connect to our wifi to do anything else >>>>>>> I want to >>>>>>> >>>>>>> do using that device. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From: Richard Turner >>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 3:18 PM >>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>> Subject: Re: the cost of staying connected >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You cannot listen to your books outside with the computer unless >>>>>>> you got some kind of wireless speaker system. >>>>>>> But, you could do everything but the phone calls and internet >>>>>>> stuff on an iPod Touch. >>>>>>> If you have wifi at home anyway, then no extra monthly fee. >>>>>>> Ditch the iPhone and get a simple, inexpensive phone for times >>>>>>> when you are >>>>>>> >>>>>>> away from home. >>>>>>> Or, keep the iPhone and decide all that convenience is worth the >>>>>>> money. >>>>>>> Just my two cents worth. >>>>>>> Richard >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On May 24, 2017, at 8:50 AM, deidre muccio <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> In the last day, I have had cause to think of the cost of >>>>>>>> staying connected via an i phone. >>>>>>>> First off we all pay a monthly service charge perhaps starting >>>>>>>> around $50. Put another $7 or more on for insurance if you buy it. >>>>>>>> Then there is the cost of the phone which can be dirt cheap if >>>>>>>> it is your first phone provided by a carrier you have been with >>>>>>>> for a long time. Once that phone needs replacing however, let's >>>>>>>> say, 2 years and a few months, you are in for purchasing a new >>>>>>>> phone or a used one, or might pay a $200 deductible on one that >>>>>>>> your insurance coverage will replace due to hardware damage. >>>>>>>> Add >>>>>>>> this all up, and it's thousands of dollars over a mere 2 year >>>>>>>> period. >>>>>>>> I have to ask what the true value is in all this? >>>>>>>> On the practical, not philosophical front, I am paying for the >>>>>>>> convenience and portability of a phone that I can make calls on >>>>>>>> and text with, and I can do all the information sharing and web >>>>>>>> searching, social networking, watch movies, listen to podcasts, >>>>>>>> read books, etc all on the run or away from home. Other than >>>>>>>> phone service and texting, all of this I can do on my desktop >>>>>>>> computer for the price of my internet service. >>>>>>>> What would I be missing if I gave this all up? Yesterday, I >>>>>>>> seriously thought of buying a monthly phone service for $25 and >>>>>>>> giving the rest up. Has anyone tried doing that lately? I'd like >>>>>>>> to hear about it! >>>>>>>> Are >>>>>>>> you planning more hikes or tandem bike rides? >>>>>>>> How I love my phone! I love lying in bed or cleaning house >>>>>>>> and moving my phone from room to room while I listen to a >>>>>>>> podcast, a replay of a news show, or a book. Again, I could do >>>>>>>> all this on a desktop computer provided the volume on my >>>>>>>> speakers reached the far rooms. I doubt I'd miss not getting >>>>>>>> calls or texts while away from home unless I was traveling out >>>>>>>> of State. Admittedly, the cheapest cell phone service I was able >>>>>>>> to purchase was $39 per month so the additional cost to text and >>>>>>>> have a phone with voice over menus is definitely superior to that. >>>>>>>> I wonder if I've already nearly fully answered my question cause >>>>>>>> I'm sitting here smiling broadly as I write this. Still, I >>>>>>>> conclude that I'm crazy for putting out the money to entertain >>>>>>>> myself around the clock, not unlike an avid TV watcher, when I >>>>>>>> could be out gardening or I could spend more time at the gym, or >>>>>>>> finishing a novel and/or the few short stories in the works! I >>>>>>>> could even get some kind of volunteer job. I will say that when >>>>>>>> I do work for pay, my work being as a masseuse, I do not use my >>>>>>>> phone at all. >>>>>>>> One good thing, I guess, is that if I go silent, friends might >>>>>>>> inquire as to whether or not I am still alive, so for safety's >>>>>>>> sake, I guess that detail gets racked up in the plus column. >>>>>>>> I did not write or dictate this using my phone. I am typing away >>>>>>>> on a full keyboard, which is far more comfortable and affords >>>>>>>> much more time for thinking. If I could word process using a >>>>>>>> full keyboard or a dictation program that would allow you to >>>>>>>> dictate unlimited text, I'd trash the desktop pronto. 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