Hello Harry,

That's a good question, and I don't know the answer. It may be that if you turn 
on Keychain, the same passwords are saved as in an iTunes backup. My 
understanding is that health data is not part of iCloud backups in iOS 10, so 
that would still be an advantage of an encrypted iTunes backup.

Best,
Anna



> On Aug 9, 2017, at 1:29 AM, Harry Bell <ubupanora...@icloud.com> wrote:
> 
> Which passwords are included in an iTunes encrypted backup which are not 
> included in Keychain, which is (I think) stored in iCloud? Harry
> 
> On 8 Aug 2017, at 23:05, Woody Anna Dresner <wadres...@att.net 
> <mailto:wadres...@att.net>> wrote:
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>> Hi Vicki,
>> 
>> Encrypted iTunes backups include health data and passwords, but otherwise, 
>> they're the same as iCloud ones. If you set iTunes to download copies of all 
>> your purchased apps, it will restore from those downloaded apps instead of 
>> the app store, however. I usually do an iTunes backup before installing a 
>> new version of iOS but do iCloud backups the rest of the time because iCloud 
>> backups are automatic. That way, if for some reason I unexpectedly had to 
>> erase my phone or start with a new device, I would have a recent backup.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Anna
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Aug 8, 2017, at 5:00 PM, Vicki <vwher...@comcast.net 
>>> <mailto:vwher...@comcast.net>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Yes, thank you. Do you think that backing up with ITunes is a better 
>>>> choice? Does that back up more?
>>>>  
>>>> Vicki
>>>>  
>>>>  
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>>>> From: Woody Anna Dresner <mailto:wadres...@att.net>
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>>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2017 11:22 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: restoring an ICloud backup
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Vicki,
>>>> 
>>>> To restore to an iCloud backup, go to Settings, choose General, then 
>>>> Reset, then Erase All Content and Settings. Follow the prompts. This will 
>>>> completely wipe all the info on your device. You then start the set-up 
>>>> process, and when you are asked, choose to restore from iCloud. The device 
>>>> will restore from the latest backup.
>>>> 
>>>> As for why the backup file is small, it doesn't include the OS or your 
>>>> apps. It also doesn't include large files like podcasts and music. 
>>>> Instead, it contains a list of all your apps and how you had them 
>>>> arranged, along with app data such as preferred settings and game scores. 
>>>> some apps include other data, like documents, but many do not. You have to 
>>>> download the data again. In short, restoring from a backup takes some work 
>>>> and I wouldn't recommend it unless there's a compelling reason to do it.
>>>> 
>>>> I hope that helps.
>>>> 
>>>> best,
>>>> Anna
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Aug 8, 2017, at 5:23 AM, Vicki <vwher...@comcast.net 
>>>>> <mailto:vwher...@comcast.net>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Good Morning,
>>>>>  
>>>>> I am very confused how to restore an ICloud backup on both my Phone and 
>>>>> mini IPad.
>>>>>  
>>>>> Shouldn't there be a list of backups somewhere to choose from?
>>>>>  
>>>>> Also, when I check the size of the storage used for backing up, it is 
>>>>> very small, only 111 mg. for my phone and Mini IPad combined.
>>>>>  
>>>>> If ICloud is backing up everything I have selected, shouldn't it be much 
>>>>> larger than that, if it is also including backing up the Current IOS?
>>>>>  
>>>>> Thanks. 
>>>>>  
>>>>> Vicki
>>>>>  
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