Hi Vicki,

The 5c doesn't have Touch ID. The 5s is the first one that does.

Best,
Anna



> On Aug 9, 2017, at 11:36 AM, Vicki <vwher...@comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> Does touch ID have to do more with the phone or the IOS. My phone is pretty 
> old, a 5C, but I am hoping to get a new one pretty soon.
>  
> I'm just not sure which one yet.
>  
> Vicki
>  
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: Woody Anna Dresner <mailto:wadres...@att.net>
>> To: VIPhone Mailing List <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2017 11:37 AM
>> Subject: Re: restoring an ICloud backup
>> 
>> Hi Vicki,
>> 
>> You could be right. Setting up a passcode is pretty easy, and using it is 
>> even easier if your phone has Touch ID.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Anna
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Aug 9, 2017, at 10:19 AM, Vicki <vwher...@comcast.net 
>>> <mailto:vwher...@comcast.net>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Doesn't health data only work if you have a passcode on your phone? I think 
>>> I was told that by someone.
>>>  
>>> I haven't had a passcode on my phone, so I could never get it to work right.
>>>  
>>> Vicki
>>>  
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: Woody Anna Dresner <mailto:wadres...@att.net>
>>>> To: VIPhone Mailing List <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2017 10:51 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: restoring an ICloud backup
>>>> 
>>>> Hello Harry,
>>>> 
>>>> That's a good question, and I don't know the answer. It may be that if you 
>>>> turn on Keychain, the same passwords are saved as in an iTunes backup My 
>>>> understanding is that health data is not part of iCloud backups in iOS 10, 
>>>> so that would still be an advantage of an encrypted iTunes backup.
>>>> 
>>>> Best,
>>>> Anna
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Aug 9, 2017, at 1:29 AM, Harry Bell <ubupanora...@icloud.com 
>>>>> <mailto:ubupanora...@icloud.com>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Which passwords are included in an iTunes encrypted backup which are not 
>>>>> included in Keychain, which is (I think) stored in iCloud? Harry
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 8 Aug 2017, at 23:05, Woody Anna Dresner <wadres...@att.net 
>>>>> <mailto:wadres...@att.net>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi Vicki,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Encrypted iTunes backups include health data and passwords, but 
>>>>>> otherwise, they're the same as iCloud ones. If you set iTunes to 
>>>>>> download copies of all your purchased apps, it will restore from those 
>>>>>> downloaded apps instead of the app store, however. I usually do an 
>>>>>> iTunes backup before installing a new version of iOS but do iCloud 
>>>>>> backups the rest of the time because iCloud backups are automatic That 
>>>>>> way, if for some reason I unexpectedly had to erase my phone or start 
>>>>>> with a new device, I would have a recent backup.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>> Anna
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Aug 8, 2017, at 5:00 PM, Vicki <vwher...@comcast.net 
>>>>>>> <mailto:vwher...@comcast.net>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Yes, thank you. Do you think that backing up with ITunes is a better 
>>>>>>>> choice? Does that back up more?
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>> Vicki
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>>>> From: Woody Anna Dresner <mailto:wadres...@att.net>
>>>>>>>> To: VIPhone Mailing List <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2017 11:22 AM
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: restoring an ICloud backup
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hi Vicki,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> To restore to an iCloud backup, go to Settings, choose General, then 
>>>>>>>> Reset, then Erase All Content and Settings. Follow the prompts. This 
>>>>>>>> will completely wipe all the info on your device. You then start the 
>>>>>>>> set-up process, and when you are asked,                choose to 
>>>>>>>> restore from iCloud. The device will restore from the latest backup.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> As for why the backup file is small, it doesn't include the OS or your 
>>>>>>>> apps. It also doesn't include large files like podcasts and music. 
>>>>>>>> Instead, it contains a list of all your apps and how you had them 
>>>>>>>> arranged, along with app data such as preferred settings and game 
>>>>>>>> scores. some apps include other data, like documents, but many do not. 
>>>>>>>> You have to download the data again. In short, restoring from a backup 
>>>>>>>> takes some work and I wouldn't recommend it unless there's a 
>>>>>>>> compelling reason to do it.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I hope that helps.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> best,
>>>>>>>> Anna
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Aug 8, 2017, at 5:23 AM, Vicki <vwher...@comcast.net 
>>>>>>>>> <mailto:vwher...@comcast.net>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Good Morning,
>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>> I am very confused how to restore an ICloud backup on both my Phone 
>>>>>>>>> and mini IPad.
>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>> Shouldn't there be a list of backups somewhere to choose from?
>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>> Also, when I check the size of the storage used for backing up, it is 
>>>>>>>>> very small, only 111 mg. for my phone and Mini IPad combined.
>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>> If ICloud is backing up everything I have selected, shouldn't it be 
>>>>>>>>> much larger than that, if it is also including backing up the Current 
>>>>>>>>> IOS?
>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>> Thanks. 
>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>> Vicki
>>>>>>>>>  
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