Hi Vicki,

You could be right. Setting up a passcode is pretty easy, and using it is even 
easier if your phone has Touch ID.

Best,
Anna



> On Aug 9, 2017, at 10:19 AM, Vicki <vwher...@comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> Doesn't health data only work if you have a passcode on your phone? I think I 
> was told that by someone.
>  
> I haven't had a passcode on my phone, so I could never get it to work right.
>  
> Vicki
>  
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: Woody Anna Dresner <mailto:wadres...@att.net>
>> To: VIPhone Mailing List <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2017 10:51 AM
>> Subject: Re: restoring an ICloud backup
>> 
>> Hello Harry,
>> 
>> That's a good question, and I don't know the answer. It may be that if you 
>> turn on Keychain, the same passwords are saved as in an iTunes backup My 
>> understanding is that health data is not part of iCloud backups in iOS 10, 
>> so that would still be an advantage of an encrypted iTunes backup.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Anna
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Aug 9, 2017, at 1:29 AM, Harry Bell <ubupanora...@icloud.com 
>>> <mailto:ubupanora...@icloud.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Which passwords are included in an iTunes encrypted backup which are not 
>>> included in Keychain, which is (I think) stored in iCloud? Harry
>>> 
>>> On 8 Aug 2017, at 23:05, Woody Anna Dresner <wadres...@att.net 
>>> <mailto:wadres...@att.net>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi Vicki,
>>>> 
>>>> Encrypted iTunes backups include health data and passwords, but otherwise, 
>>>> they're the same as iCloud ones. If you set iTunes to download copies of 
>>>> all your purchased apps, it will restore from those downloaded apps 
>>>> instead of the app store, however. I usually do an iTunes backup before 
>>>> installing a new version of iOS but do iCloud backups the rest of the time 
>>>> because iCloud backups are automatic. That way, if for some reason I 
>>>> unexpectedly had to erase my phone or start with a new device, I would 
>>>> have a recent backup.
>>>> 
>>>> Best,
>>>> Anna
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Aug 8, 2017, at 5:00 PM, Vicki <vwher...@comcast.net 
>>>>> <mailto:vwher...@comcast.net>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Yes, thank you. Do you think that backing up with ITunes is a better 
>>>>>> choice? Does that back up more?
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> Vicki
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>> From: Woody Anna Dresner <mailto:wadres...@att.net>
>>>>>> To: VIPhone Mailing List <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2017 11:22 AM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: restoring an ICloud backup
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi Vicki,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> To restore to an iCloud backup, go to Settings, choose General, then 
>>>>>> Reset, then Erase All Content and Settings. Follow the prompts. This 
>>>>>> will completely wipe all the info on your device. You then start the 
>>>>>> set-up process, and when you are asked, choose to restore from iCloud. 
>>>>>> The device will restore from the latest backup.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> As for why the backup file is small, it doesn't include the OS or your 
>>>>>> apps. It also doesn't include large files like podcasts and music. 
>>>>>> Instead, it contains a list of all your apps and how you had them 
>>>>>> arranged, along with app data such as preferred settings and game 
>>>>>> scores. some apps include other data, like documents, but many do not. 
>>>>>> You have to download the data again. In short, restoring from a backup 
>>>>>> takes some work and I wouldn't recommend it unless there's a compelling 
>>>>>> reason to do it.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I hope that helps.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> best,
>>>>>> Anna
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Aug 8, 2017, at 5:23 AM, Vicki <vwher...@comcast.net 
>>>>>>> <mailto:vwher...@comcast.net>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Good Morning,
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> I am very confused how to restore an ICloud backup on both my Phone and 
>>>>>>> mini IPad.
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> Shouldn't there be a list of backups somewhere to choose from?
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> Also, when I check the size of the storage used for backing up, it is 
>>>>>>> very small, only 111 mg. for my phone and Mini IPad combined.
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> If ICloud is backing up everything I have selected, shouldn't it be 
>>>>>>> much larger than that, if it is also including backing up the Current 
>>>>>>> IOS?
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> Thanks. 
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> Vicki
>>>>>>>  
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