I've used Otterbox quite often, but had almost as many Griffin survivor ones 
too, which look even more robust, all be they a bit 
bulky and clunky-looking.

As for the car thing, I can see scenarios where it could survive, which it did; 
it's all in the detail.  Bottom line is - 
exceptionally lucky.  Not sure what pressure tyres are pumped up to over there, 
but even as a spread loaod, it would have been an 
awful lot for a screen, even with a protector.

Jmo, RobH.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kliphton Miller" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, December 01, 2017 4:03 PM
Subject: Re: Screen protectors are they worth it?


Well, I heard it for myself, and a lot of people standing around that seen it 
happen were amazed also.  These are the same cases 
they use in the Military because they are so durable.  If I hadn’t been there, 
I would doubt it also, but I have seen and heard some 
amazing things from otter box, that’s why I continue to use them.

> On Dec 1, 2017, at 10:56 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Hi Kliphton,
>
> I hope you don't mind if I'm skeptical, Otterbox Defender cases might be 
> good, but if two cars actually ran over this iPhone in 
> the Otterbox Defender as in one of the cars wheels actually drove right over 
> it and this happened twice then I highly doubt an 
> Otterbox Defender would leave an iPhone inside completely undamaged. Just my 
> thoughts.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
> Kliphton Miller
> Sent: Friday, December 1, 2017 2:56 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Screen protectors are they worth it?
>
> This is all a matter of personal preference.  I have been using otterboxes 
> for almost 5 years, I have never had a slow responding 
> screen, and I have always been able to sell my phones as practically new 
> because of this.  I had a friend, who was against 
> otterboxes, she decided to go with one just to spite me, dropped her phone in 
> the street the very next day, 2 cars and a motor 
> cycle ran over the phone before she got a chance to get to it.  The case was 
> banged up, but the phone when taking it out was 
> flawless, so to each there own.  I am going with the temperd glass on my 
> iPHone X, and 50 bucks is a bit high for glass screen 
> protectors, I only paid 40 for mine.
>> On Dec 1, 2017, at 12:05 AM, Tom Lange <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>> I don’t like the plastic screen protectors that come with the Otterbox 
>> Defenders. We bought two phones with Otterboxes for our 
>> lab and because there was a hair-thin gap between the screens and the 
>> protectors, the screens were considerably less responsive 
>> to taps, which prompted us to remove the plastic protectors. I’ve used glass 
>> protectors with Mophie cases and they worked great 
>> but in my opinion the AT&T store charged way too much for the glass, $50 if 
>> I remember correctly. Is that really a reasonable 
>> price for a glass screen protector?
>> So right now I’m using an Apple battery case and no extra glass and I’m fine 
>> with it. I just try to be extra-careful with my 
>> phone to make sure it’s not knocked about. Any minor wear and tear on the 
>> screen will likely come from contact with keys and 
>> other stuff I carry in my pocket.
>> Tom
>>
>>
>>> On Nov 30, 2017, at 7:49 PM, Christopher Chaltain <[email protected]> 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I don't think the presence of a screen protector negatively impacts the 
>>> performance of the phone. If it did, it would also 
>>> impact sighted users, who also touch their screens. For me personally, I 
>>> don't think their worth it, but if it gives you piece 
>>> of mind then go for it. I tend to be a bit over protective of my devices, 
>>> but my wife doesn't want a device she needs to worry 
>>> about, and it's important to her that she be able to just toss it into her 
>>> purse without having to worry about scratching the 
>>> screen. For her, she always uses cases and screen protectors. For me, I 
>>> prefer the look and feel of the phone itself, and I 
>>> don't want to loose the feel of a $700 phone by wrapping it in a $30 case.
>>>
>>>
>>> In the example below, I agree it was fortunate that there was a screen 
>>> protector on the phone, but I would only add that just 
>>> because the screen protector cracked doesn't mean the phone's screen would 
>>> have shown any damage whatsoever. Apple uses pretty 
>>> tough screens.
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 11/30/2017 03:17 PM, Denny Schwab wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I am 100% behind the glass screen protectors.  This past summer I
>>>> was sitting outside with my wife and kids, at the cabin.  The
>>>> two-year-old was playing with some larger rocks, the size of golf
>>>> balls.  He accidentally threw one and it hit directly on the screen
>>>> of the IPhone I was currently reading a audio book on.  The glass
>>>> screen protector spiderwebbed, but the actual IPhone screen was safe and 
>>>> sound.
>>>>
>>>> Denny
>>>>
>>>>> On 11/30/17, Andy Baracco <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> i have owned an iPhone since 2009 and have never felt the need for
>>>>> a screen protector. It's called taking care of your property.
>>>>>
>>>>> Andy
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: Sieghard Weitzel
>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 10:02 AM
>>>>> Subject: RE: Screen protectors are they worth it?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi malcolm,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, I think using a good and well-installed screen protector is a
>>>>> good thing. It will prevent yoru screen from getting all those
>>>>> little scratches and dings it can get and if you get one of the
>>>>> glass ones which are totally the ones I recommend a screen
>>>>> protector can spread out the force of any impact if you ever drop it.
>>>>>
>>>>> I don’t like the plastic ones, they usually make the screen less
>>>>> slippery, some people like this but I like to be able to slide my
>>>>> finger around easily.
>>>>>
>>>>> I bought a glass screen protector at an Apple Store just over a year ago.
>>>>> The girl at the Apple Store installed it for me and while at first
>>>>> it felt a bit dull and less slippery, a couple of days of use fixed
>>>>> that and now you can’t even tell the difference, it’s still
>>>>> perfectly applied and I really like it.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
>>>>> On Behalf Of Malcolm Parfitt
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 6:13 AM
>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>> Subject: Screen protectors are they worth it?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I have never used a screen protector with any of my iPhones but my
>>>>> friends all use them.  They are not VoiceOver users so I was
>>>>> wondering whether there would be any point in getting one for my
>>>>> iPhone7.  What impact do they have on the usability of the iPhone from a 
>>>>> VoiceOver perspective?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Any observations and recommendations welcome.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Malcolm
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