I use writer. I don't understand what the justification of a subscription-based writing tool? Jen
Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 7, 2017, at 9:15 AM, Richard Turner <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > Writer is $9.99 but well worth it in my opinion. > I know nothing about Scribner. > MS-Word is free, but not very user friendly with VoiceOver. It is almost > impossible to keep track of where you are in a document. > It might be a little better than Pages, but not great. > Richard > > > > (Sent from the iPod Touch 6) > > On Dec 7, 2017, at 5:39 AM, K. Scott Carlson <[email protected]> wrote: > >> It seems like the top ones that people recommend are Scrivener, VoiceDream >> Writer and MS Word. >> >>> On 12/6/2017 8:40 PM, Michael Feir wrote: >>> I completely get that feeling. However, they make a pretty good case. Good >>> enough to convince me at any rate. I'm in this for the long haul. I want a >>> tool which will not suddenly disappear or be left to age ungracefully. Not >>> so long ago, there were some wonderful audio games which even had famous >>> voice actors like Sean Bean as narrators. They're gone now because the >>> developers couldn't make enough profit to keep in business making games. >>> Papa Sangre and Audio Defence can't be bought anymore and you'd need older >>> hardware to run them. I never got to win any of those games before they >>> reached the point where they wouldn't work on new versions of iOS. That's >>> what can happen when you pay once and everyone else interested has also >>> paid once. >>> >>> The subscription model gives them the income they need to keep working on >>> Ulysses in a more considered way than with other apps. With a one-time >>> feee, you buy what you get but there's no funds or obligation for the >>> developer to keep working on it. Also, in order to attract more customers, >>> you need to make big changes with that in mind rather than the more >>> considered changes you make when you rely on people sticking with you who >>> like what you offered at the time you subscribed. >>> >>> When I've put in tech support requests, I've gotten consistantly reasonable >>> good responses. They're a small company but they really care about problems >>> faced by subscribers. I don't think blind people make a huge percentage of >>> their subscribers but they nevertheless address accessibility issues as >>> that's possible. Frankly, I'm in this out of pure interest to see how a >>> steady income changes app development and mind set for these folks. I want >>> to see how thing develop over the years presuming they manage to last. >>> They['ve gotten tonds of attention from writers so I think they have a very >>> good chance of staying the corse and keeping their subscribers happy. >>> >>> Anyhow, that's why I got on board. It's not perfect. There's a movement lag >>> when yo first move onto a document with Voiceover. However, writing works >>> fine but they're going to improve movement of the cursor with VoiceOver as >>> soon as they can. It's good enough that I'm more than willing to put up >>> with a few things in order to have the rest. I'll keep an ear on this >>> threas to see what other people may have found when it comes to writing >>> apps. >>> >>>> On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 8:08 PM kelby carlson <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> I totally understand a subscription model for a service like Spotify where >>>> you're paying for access to a catalog. But not with something like a >>>> writing tool for personal use; a one-time charge makes more sense from my >>>> perspective. >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> On Dec 6, 2017, at 5:44 PM, Michael Feir <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I personally find Ulysses worth the subscription. It'll be even more the >>>>> case once they deal with a touch of cluggishness navigating with >>>>> VoiceOver. That's on the agenda. One alternative you may want to check >>>>> out is Bear. I don't believe it's a subscription model app. There's also >>>>> Scrivener. Pages from Apple is their free word processor. I didn't like >>>>> it but others may find it suits them. You might also want to try >>>>> Microsoft Word which is free on iOS. Hope that helps. >>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 5:30 PM Stephanie Mitchell >>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> I use byword. It is similar but a little cheaper. >>>>>> >>>>>> Steph >>>>>> >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>> From: K. Scott Carlson >>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>> Date: 12/07/2017 08:19 AM >>>>>> Subject: Free Writing App? >>>>>> >>>>>> Does anyone have any recommendations for either a free or inexpensive >>>>>> writing app that is accessible? I was thinking of getting Ulysses but I >>>>>> don't want to pay a subscription fee for an app like that. >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone >>>>>> list. >>>>>> >>>>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or >>>>>> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the >>>>>> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>>>>> >>>>>> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >>>>>> [email protected]. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> >>>>>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >>>>>> --- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "VIPhone" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. >>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- >>>>>> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone >>>>>> list. >>>>>> >>>>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or >>>>>> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the >>>>>> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>>>>> >>>>>> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >>>>>> [email protected]. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> >>>>>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >>>>>> --- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "VIPhone" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. >>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Michael Feir >>>>> Twitter: mfeir >>>>> Skype: michael-feir >>>>> Check out my blog at: >>>>> http://www.michaelfeir.blogspot.ca >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Currently writing Personal Power: The iOS Edition >>>>> Regular presenter on Kelly And Company >>>>> Learn about iOS, audio dramas, podcasts and accessible games >>>>> Thursdays at 4:15 PM Eastern >>>>> Www.ami.ca/kellyco >>>>> >>>>> Creator of Journeys of the Mind lectures >>>>> 2015 >>>>> http://michaelfeir.blogspot.ca/2015/01/journeys-of-mind-play-is-where.html?m=0 >>>>> >>>>> Volunteer at New Horizons Peel Multicultural Centre >>>>> www.peelmc.ca >>>>> 2014 >>>>> >>>>> Disability advocate >>>>> Meadowvale Community Christian Reformed Church >>>>> www.meadowvalecrc.ca >>>>> 2013--2014 >>>>> >>>>> Volunteer at The Dam >>>>> http://www.thedam.org >>>>> 2011-2013 >>>>> Author of Personal Power: >>>>> How Accessible Computers Can Enhance Personal Life For Blind People >>>>> 2006-2008 >>>>> http://michaelfeir.blogspot.ca/2009/01/personal-power.html >>>>> >>>>> A Life of Word and Sound >>>>> 2003-2007 >>>>> http://michaelfeir.blogspot.ca/2009/01/life-of-word-and-sound.html >>>>> >>>>> Creator and former editor of Audyssey Magazine 1996-2004 >>>>> -- >>>>> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone >>>>> list. >>>>> >>>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or >>>>> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the >>>>> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>>>> >>>>> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >>>>> [email protected]. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> >>>>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >>>>> --- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>> "VIPhone" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>>> email to [email protected]. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. >>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>> -- >>>> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone >>>> list. >>>> >>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or >>>> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the >>>> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>>> >>>> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >>>> [email protected]. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >>>> [email protected] >>>> >>>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >>>> --- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "VIPhone" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>> email to [email protected]. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >>> -- >>> Michael Feir >>> Twitter: mfeir >>> Skype: michael-feir >>> Check out my blog at: >>> http://www.michaelfeir.blogspot.ca >>> >>> >>> Currently writing Personal Power: The iOS Edition >>> Regular presenter on Kelly And Company >>> Learn about iOS, audio dramas, podcasts and accessible games >>> Thursdays at 4:15 PM Eastern >>> Www.ami.ca/kellyco >>> >>> Creator of Journeys of the Mind lectures >>> 2015 >>> http://michaelfeir.blogspot.ca/2015/01/journeys-of-mind-play-is-where.html?m=0 >>> >>> Volunteer at New Horizons Peel Multicultural Centre >>> www.peelmc.ca >>> 2014 >>> >>> Disability advocate >>> Meadowvale Community Christian Reformed Church >>> www.meadowvalecrc.ca >>> 2013--2014 >>> >>> >>> Volunteer at The Dam >>> http://www.thedam.org >>> 2011-2013 >>> Author of Personal Power: >>> How Accessible Computers Can Enhance Personal Life For Blind People >>> 2006-2008 >>> http://michaelfeir.blogspot.ca/2009/01/personal-power.html >>> >>> >>> A Life of Word and Sound >>> 2003-2007 >>> http://michaelfeir.blogspot.ca/2009/01/life-of-word-and-sound.html >>> >>> >>> Creator and former editor of Audyssey Magazine 1996-2004 >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. >>> >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners >>> or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>> >>> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >>> [email protected]. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >>> [email protected] >>> >>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "VIPhone" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to [email protected]. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >> [email protected]. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> [email protected] >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "VIPhone" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > [email protected]. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > [email protected] > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: [email protected]. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at [email protected] The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
