Hah, fair enough. My wife is 5 feet 1 inch, so I know how important that 1 inch is!

Sorry I was so critical, and I should have realized there was some humor and sarcasm involved, but I've just seen so many posts with exaggerations and melodrama that I'm afraid I over reacted. I hope you'll accept my apology.


I'm 5 feet 7 inches, and my cane is 5 feet long. If you're 5 feet 1 inch then you're cane would be more like 4 and a half feet long. I'm sure you're streets are pretty short, but unless they're only 10 feet long, which would mean you'd have some pretty thin houses on that street, it's still not going to reach half way down that street!


On 03/25/2018 10:45 AM, Jewel wrote:
I * used to be 5 feet:  in my younger days, 5 feet 1 inch:  mustn't forget that 
precious 1 inch:
but, either everything in my house is growing, or I, shudder..shudder and 
perish the thought, am
getting shorter.  I swear that, hardly, a day goes by when I don't have to 
stand on less and less
toe tip to reach shelves.
and Christopher!  you don't know how short our streets are! so I might not have 
been exaggerating
when I wrote of a chin-high long cane warning me of an obstacle, for instance,  
an unsuspecting
pedestrian who has just found the tip of a cane inserting itself between 
his/her ankles, when I, the
cane wielder, was still only halfway down it.

        Jewel

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From: "Deidre Muccio" <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2018 3:06 AM
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Apple proposes new emojis for people with disabilities, CNET

Christopher, Perhaps you have not been following Jewel's post for a long time 
now.  you don't grasp
her usual tongue and cheek or brand of Eumar. I would say that If Jewel is used 
to using a 3 foot
Kane then a 5 foot Kane is indeed going to seem like it's turning the corner 
long before she needs
to turn a corner. I had also experience the same feeling when I use Kane's that 
were measured up to
my chin as oppposed to up to my sternum. I find using a 3 foot cane, On the 
other hand,  too short
for me and makes me feel like I am pitching forward. I'm not sure how I know 
this, but I also
believe that Jewel is 5 feet tall so maybe a 3 foot long Kane would  be the 
right size for her!
As for the emoticon, I'm not sure in what context one would care to use one. I 
think that was
spelled out in  the post put out by Apple, but I've already spaced it out cause 
it only brought
comical images rather than anything useful to mind for me.

Deidre


On Mar 25, 2018, at 9:34 AM, Christopher Chaltain <[email protected]> wrote:

Well, the idea behind the long cane is that you want a cane that will sweep out 
the space that
you're about to step into. A shorter cane means that you'd either have to walk 
slower and take
shorter steps or increase the risk of running into something since you won't 
have enough warning
to stop.


Obviously, anyone can choose to use any length of cane they want, but a five 
foot long cane, when
holding it at an angle, is hardly going to extend half way down the street.




On 03/25/2018 04:41 AM, Jewel wrote:
On the rare occasions that I went out on the street sans guide dog, my cane was 
3 feet long, and
I
found that, completely adequate.  A cane extending to the sternum, and even 
worse, the chin!  my
blood curdles at the very thought!  If there is an obstacle to avoid, I would 
rather know about
it
when I am close, not still halfway down the street!
It will be understood that I grew up in the era before the long cane, so my 
mobility education
was
with the 3 footer!

          Jewel

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From: "Kelly Pierce" <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2018 2:54 PM
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Apple proposes new emojis for people with disabilities, CNET

I became suspicious when I noticed that the only blindness
organization consulted by Apple in press reports was the American
Council of the Blind. A sighted friend examined the emojis and found
the canes appear to only extend to the elbows of the blind people, who
appear to be age 12. This cane length is below the sternum, which is
the minimum cane length advocated by the Association for Education and
Rehabilitation of the Blind and Visually Impaired. ACB regularly
affiliates with AER.  The National Federation of the Blind recommends
that white canes extend past the chin.  It is sad Apple has brazenly
picked a political side in the white canes and travel debate rather
than develop an image representative of independent blind travel. The
blind people in the emoji’s are holding really short white canes with
red tips and a black golf grip with the nylon cord around their
wrists, which can often be a safety hazard. If blind people have their
canes caught in the doors of rapid transit or light rail trains, they
could be dragged to their deaths when the train rapidly accelerates
rather than having the cane just knocked out of their hand if a strap
is not wrapped around their wrist. It sets a poor example of cane use
to the public and blind people everywhere. I will ask Apple to
withdraw its submission and create new emoji that actually
demonstrates safe independent travel.

Kelly




On 3/23/18, M. Taylor <[email protected]> wrote:
Apple proposes new emojis for people with disabilities
The iPhone maker offered up 13 new designs for review.
By Jessica Dolcourt, March 23, 2018 11:54 AM PDT

A wheelchair, a service dog and prosthetic limbs could join your emojis of
men and women jogging and playing sports.

Three of the 13 new emojis Apple has submitted to Unicode for evaluation.
Apple/CNET
Apple has proposed 13 new emojis to include more experiences for people
with
disabilities. The iPhone-maker submitted its formal request to Unicode, the
consortium that governs the standard that includes emojis.
The new symbols feature men and women walking with a cane and touching
their
ear, as well as standalone icons of a hearing aid and prosthetic arm.
Apple has been making a big push to ensure that its devices are accessible
for all users. The company's iPhones, Macs and other devices include plenty
of features that let people with vision, hearing and other impairments more
easily use those devices.
In Apple's own words:
"Apple is requesting the addition of emoji to better represent individuals
with disabilities. Currently, emoji provide a wide range of options, but
may
not represent the experiences of those with disabilities. Diversifying the
options available helps fill a significant gap and provides a more
inclusive
experience for all."

You can read the full PDF proposal here.

Original Article at:
https://www.cnet.com/news/apple-proposes-new-emoji-for-people-with-disabilit
ies/#ftag=CAD-09-10aai5b

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