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El 26/03/2018, a la(s) 8:56 a. m., Kelly Pierce <[email protected]> escribió: > The issue is the perception the public has about blind people and > their independence. It is not about cane purchasing decisions. Apple > and the ACB are advancing the notion that short canes to the stomach > are normal and expected along with a cord wrapped tightly around a > blind person’s wrist. This is not how most blind people travel, > particularly the most independent and confident travelers. I > completely disagree with the proposition that inaccurate depictions of > blind people are better than none at all. Emoji’s are just one means > of how the public can change its belief on what it means to be blind. > > Kelly > > >> On 3/26/18, Wayne Merritt <[email protected]> wrote: >> I'm glad Apple is going to put some accessibility items in the ever >> growing emojy category. As stated before, the general populous is not >> going to make buying decisions based off of cane emojys, just like >> they would not make the buying decisions based off of other emojys. At >> least they are recognizing people with disabilities, even if it is in >> this small way. I recall not too long ago when emoji's were starting >> to be added at all, hearing concern from some blind folk that there >> were not any access emoji's. So it's good to see that Apple have >> gotten around to it. I still like and will occasionally use the >> Braille Badges from the American Printing House; these emojys are much >> more than canes and dogs, and are super fun to use, plus they're free. >> >> Wayne >> >>> On 3/25/18, Jewel <[email protected]> wrote: >>> Rob! It is true that I am short, but petite! I, regretably, am not! >>> >>> Jewel >>> -------------------------------------------------- >>> From: "'RobH.' via VIPhone" <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Monday, March 26, 2018 6:22 AM >>> To: <[email protected]> >>> Subject: Re: Apple proposes new emojis for people with disabilities, CNET >>> >>> I love this comment. Some of us like petite, me for example. And to go >>> against my own previous >>> comment, sighted getting caught >>> between their ankles is an absolute classic error they manage. A cane >>> can >>> be too long if you cqan't >>> withdraw it in quick manner to >>> free from such a trap. Mine is just about Sternum and needs to be pulled >>> to >>> the perpendicular >>> without hitting me under the chin. >>> Mine is designed to achieve this,... I just hated the RNIB offerings, >>> which are about the standard >>> offering the rest are stuck >>> with. >>> >>> RobH, hopes to get off mobility aids as such, soon now, and sorry I fell >>> for >>> the bait too. >>> >>> BobH. >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Jewel" <[email protected]> >>> To: <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2018 4:45 PM >>> Subject: Re: Apple proposes new emojis for people with disabilities, CNET >>> >>> >>> I * used to be 5 feet: in my younger days, 5 feet 1 inch: mustn't >>> forget >>> that precious 1 inch: >>> but, either everything in my house is growing, or I, shudder..shudder and >>> perish the thought, am >>> getting shorter. I swear that, hardly, a day goes by when I don't have >>> to >>> stand on less and less >>> toe tip to reach shelves. >>> and Christopher! you don't know how short our streets are! so I might >>> not >>> have been exaggerating >>> when I wrote of a chin-high long cane warning me of an obstacle, for >>> instance, an unsuspecting >>> pedestrian who has just found the tip of a cane inserting itself between >>> his/her ankles, when I, the >>> cane wielder, was still only halfway down it. >>> >>> Jewel >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------- >>> From: "Deidre Muccio" <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Monday, March 26, 2018 3:06 AM >>> To: <[email protected]> >>> Subject: Re: Apple proposes new emojis for people with disabilities, CNET >>> >>> Christopher, Perhaps you have not been following Jewel's post for a long >>> time now. you don't grasp >>> her usual tongue and cheek or brand of Eumar. I would say that If Jewel >>> is >>> used to using a 3 foot >>> Kane then a 5 foot Kane is indeed going to seem like it's turning the >>> corner >>> long before she needs >>> to turn a corner. I had also experience the same feeling when I use >>> Kane's >>> that were measured up to >>> my chin as oppposed to up to my sternum. I find using a 3 foot cane, On >>> the >>> other hand, too short >>> for me and makes me feel like I am pitching forward. I'm not sure how I >>> know >>> this, but I also >>> believe that Jewel is 5 feet tall so maybe a 3 foot long Kane would be >>> the >>> right size for her! >>> As for the emoticon, I'm not sure in what context one would care to use >>> one. >>> I think that was >>> spelled out in the post put out by Apple, but I've already spaced it out >>> cause it only brought >>> comical images rather than anything useful to mind for me. >>> >>> Deidre >>> >>> >>>> On Mar 25, 2018, at 9:34 AM, Christopher Chaltain <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Well, the idea behind the long cane is that you want a cane that will >>>> sweep out the space that >>>> you're about to step into. A shorter cane means that you'd either have >>>> to >>>> walk slower and take >>>> shorter steps or increase the risk of running into something since you >>>> won't have enough warning >>>> to stop. >>>> >>>> >>>> Obviously, anyone can choose to use any length of cane they want, but a >>>> five foot long cane, when >>>> holding it at an angle, is hardly going to extend half way down the >>>> street. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> On 03/25/2018 04:41 AM, Jewel wrote: >>>>> On the rare occasions that I went out on the street sans guide dog, my >>>>> cane was 3 feet long, and >>>>> I >>>>> found that, completely adequate. A cane extending to the sternum, and >>>>> even worse, the chin! my >>>>> blood curdles at the very thought! If there is an obstacle to avoid, I >>>>> would rather know about >>>>> it >>>>> when I am close, not still halfway down the street! >>>>> It will be understood that I grew up in the era before the long cane, >>>>> so >>>>> my mobility education >>>>> was >>>>> with the 3 footer! >>>>> >>>>> Jewel >>>>> >>>>> -------------------------------------------------- >>>>> From: "Kelly Pierce" <[email protected]> >>>>> Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2018 2:54 PM >>>>> To: <[email protected]> >>>>> Subject: Re: Apple proposes new emojis for people with disabilities, >>>>> CNET >>>>> >>>>> I became suspicious when I noticed that the only blindness >>>>> organization consulted by Apple in press reports was the American >>>>> Council of the Blind. A sighted friend examined the emojis and found >>>>> the canes appear to only extend to the elbows of the blind people, who >>>>> appear to be age 12. This cane length is below the sternum, which is >>>>> the minimum cane length advocated by the Association for Education and >>>>> Rehabilitation of the Blind and Visually Impaired. ACB regularly >>>>> affiliates with AER. The National Federation of the Blind recommends >>>>> that white canes extend past the chin. It is sad Apple has brazenly >>>>> picked a political side in the white canes and travel debate rather >>>>> than develop an image representative of independent blind travel. The >>>>> blind people in the emoji’s are holding really short white canes with >>>>> red tips and a black golf grip with the nylon cord around their >>>>> wrists, which can often be a safety hazard. If blind people have their >>>>> canes caught in the doors of rapid transit or light rail trains, they >>>>> could be dragged to their deaths when the train rapidly accelerates >>>>> rather than having the cane just knocked out of their hand if a strap >>>>> is not wrapped around their wrist. It sets a poor example of cane use >>>>> to the public and blind people everywhere. I will ask Apple to >>>>> withdraw its submission and create new emoji that actually >>>>> demonstrates safe independent travel. >>>>> >>>>> Kelly >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On 3/23/18, M. Taylor <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> Apple proposes new emojis for people with disabilities >>>>>> The iPhone maker offered up 13 new designs for review. >>>>>> By Jessica Dolcourt, March 23, 2018 11:54 AM PDT >>>>>> >>>>>> A wheelchair, a service dog and prosthetic limbs could join your >>>>>> emojis >>>>>> of >>>>>> men and women jogging and playing sports. >>>>>> >>>>>> Three of the 13 new emojis Apple has submitted to Unicode for >>>>>> evaluation. >>>>>> Apple/CNET >>>>>> Apple has proposed 13 new emojis to include more experiences for >>>>>> people >>>>>> with >>>>>> disabilities. The iPhone-maker submitted its formal request to >>>>>> Unicode, >>>>>> the >>>>>> consortium that governs the standard that includes emojis. >>>>>> The new symbols feature men and women walking with a cane and touching >>>>>> their >>>>>> ear, as well as standalone icons of a hearing aid and prosthetic arm. >>>>>> Apple has been making a big push to ensure that its devices are >>>>>> accessible >>>>>> for all users. The company's iPhones, Macs and other devices include >>>>>> plenty >>>>>> of features that let people with vision, hearing and other impairments >>>>>> more >>>>>> easily use those devices. >>>>>> In Apple's own words: >>>>>> "Apple is requesting the addition of emoji to better represent >>>>>> individuals >>>>>> with disabilities. Currently, emoji provide a wide range of options, >>>>>> but >>>>>> may >>>>>> not represent the experiences of those with disabilities. Diversifying >>>>>> the >>>>>> options available helps fill a significant gap and provides a more >>>>>> inclusive >>>>>> experience for all." >>>>>> >>>>>> You can read the full PDF proposal here. >>>>>> >>>>>> Original Article at: >>>>>> https://www.cnet.com/news/apple-proposes-new-emoji-for-people-with-disabilit >>>>>> ies/#ftag=CAD-09-10aai5b >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone >>>>>> list. >>>>>> >>>>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, >>>>>> or >>>>>> if >>>>>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the >>>>>> owners or >>>>>> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>>>>> >>>>>> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >>>>>> [email protected]. 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