The cartoonish/silly style is kind of the point to emojis though. They're not meant to necessarily be accurate and realistic depictions of things or people per say.
-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Kelly Pierce Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 8:09 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Apple proposes new emojis for people with disabilities, CNET My sighted friend said the figures are cartoon like rather than an image that represents an actual person. He said they have a 1950’s look to them. Rob, humanity changes and today’s images should represent the people of today. For example, almost no one had tattoos 50 years ago. Now, more than half of adults under 35 in the United States and Europe have either a tattoo or have died their hair a color that is not natural to humans. Similarly, people are bigger now than in the past, Male recruits to the U.S. military weighed on average 160 lbs. in 1960. Now, they weigh 200. Kelly On 3/27/18, 'RobH.' via VIPhone <[email protected]> wrote: > Agree with all this and endorse the mobility/cane technique in particular. > The Symbol cane is generic enough to serve the purpose for use on > these graphic symbols. Red striping is something else here as > that denotes additional deafness or deaf-blind. The RNIB > over here do have such an icon or image with a generic cane included. > They could stylise if they tried, the wheelchair icon is distinct > however lacking in minor detail. Road signage has captured this > technique to greatest effect so far, simply obvious from a mile away, > as they need to be. > > Thanks for your response, BobH. > > Ps: worth noting that long cane was not introduced until late 60s, > canes were lightweight walking stick length, and white painted walking > sticks before that. Ok, 50 years of long cane availability is an age, > but worth noting it wasn't always so. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Christopher Chaltain" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 7:51 AM > Subject: Re: Apple proposes new emojis for people with disabilities, > CNET > > > Speaking about making assumptions based on limited experience, when > using a long cane in crowded areas, where you're moving more slowly, > you can choke up on the cane so it doesn't extend as far out in front > of you. It's not dangerous, and it doesn't slow you down any more so > then walking in a crowded area does. In addition though, when not in a > crowded area, you can sweep out an area in front of you much further > ahead allowing you to walk more quickly, more normally and more safely. > Obviously people can use whatever cane length they want and they're > comfortable with, but if someone thinks it's tragic to make > assumptions with limited experience then those who don't have > experience using a long white cane probably shouldn't be making > assumptions on how it works and how safe it is or is not. > > > It seems to me that this question could be solved by making the emojis > a bit more generic or stylized. Give the cane a more intermediate > length and make the cane simpler without the strap and red striping. > It'll still represent a blind person but the actual length and style > of the cane could be interpreted however the viewer wants to interpret it. > > > > On 03/26/2018 08:00 PM, TaraPrakash wrote: >> “ This is not how most blind people travel, >> particularly the most independent and confident travelers.“ >> particularly three people that I know >> >> Making assumptions based on limited experience is so tragically >> ridiculous. Nfb is just one of the many organizations in the US The >> US is just one country in the world. Majority of the blind people >> throughout the world including yours truly do not use >> canes up to their chins In fact, you will not be able to walk in >> developing countries or in countries with high population >> density such huge canes will slow you down They can actually be very >> dangerous for the user Last time I checked, Apple >> was selling it’s iPhones throughout the world not just in the US >> And no, this resolution will not pass in July Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Mar 26, 2018, at 10:56 AM, Kelly Pierce <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> blind person’s wrist. 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