Hi Siegard,

At least in the UK, I must disagree with you. Companies do not seem
too generous with their warrantys, quite the opposite in fact. They
have a tendency to refuse to perform a simple credit card check to
make sure you bought the item, instead expecting you to have keep the
receipt for it 9 months ago; once you produce that you can be expected
to provide proof you bought an extended warranty.
The one exception I can find is pc world, which has pretty much
provided me with a lifetime of free headphones. I use my headphones
for work, recreation and university so they're going to die a lot
quicker than most pairs; so the warranty is two years. The last pair
of headphones I had which lasted a whole two years was probably when I
was a child...and when I go in to replace these headphones, the
warranty resets for free. I'm on my third pair.

On 5/6/18, Carolyn Arnold <[email protected]> wrote:
> I didn't explain why the ear buds instead of the flat type that come with
> the phone. I wear hearing aids, and I can't get those hard flat one in so
> that I can hear, but with the ones that do not have the hard buds, I can
> manage.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Carolyn
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
> Of Carolyn Arnold
> Sent: Sunday, May 6, 2018 12:37 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: AppleCare Plus Still Worth It? What's Your Experience?
>
> I buy dollar ear buds and really like them. I don't know how well anyone
> could hear me in the little microphone, so probably will use a headset with
> my iPhone. I will use the ear buds when out to make calls and things,
> because I do not like talking stuff out in the world.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Carolyn
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
> Of Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Sunday, May 6, 2018 11:13 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: AppleCare Plus Still Worth It? What's Your Experience?
>
> Hi Alan,
>
>
>
> I usually find my experiences at Apple Stores are very good, but the few
> times I called the main Apple custpomer service line it is often the
> opposite. I have had good experiences there, but just as you I often found
> the people they have answering their phones are not very knowledgeable at
> all.
>
> By the way, I read that Apple’s cost to manufacture their phones is about
> 35% of what they are sold for at retail and that apparently Apple keeps
> their margins about the same. This would mean that a set of $30 /Earpods
> would cost about $10 to make, but I somehow have a feeling it is much less
> than that because the actual value of the components can’t be more than $4
> or $5 and in the same article which was a few years old and was talking
> about the iPhone 5S I think said that while the components of the phone cost
> about $200 the actual manufacturing cost was only $8. If I consider a
> factory which produces headsets where probably millions of the things are
> pumped out constantly they just have to be cheap. The same formular applied
> to the Airpods would indicate the cost of a set of Airpods is about $55 for
> Apple with a bit over $100 in profit (of course shipping costs must be
> deducted from that at least for the portion of Airpods which are ordered
> online and where Apple offers free shipping. Let’s face it, there is a
> reason why Apple is the richest company in the world, I wish I could get
> away having a 65% profit margin.
>
> I also agree that Apple Care Plus is less attractive nowadays since it has
> become so much more expensive. It used to be $79, I think now on the iPhone
> X it is $199 and adding Apple Care Plus is just simply expensive nowadays.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Sieghard
>
>
>
> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Alan
> Lemly
> Sent: Saturday, May 5, 2018 9:57 AM
> To: VIPhone Email List <[email protected]>
> Subject: AppleCare Plus Still Worth It? What's Your Experience?
>
>
>
> Hi List,
>
>
>
> I've always been a major proponent of purchasing AppleCare Plus when buying
> a new iPhone. My reasoning is that these devices are not inexpensive and
> since they are constantly being carried around, the opportunity for
> accidents or physical wear and tear is fairly substantial. I'm starting to
> have second thoughts after my last two experiences filing a warranty claim
> under AppleCare Plus.
>
>
>
> I've posted on this list about an issue I'm having with my wired Apple
> earpods and thanks to comments on this list was able to confirm that the
> microphone on those earpods was starting to fail. I initiated over the phone
> an AppleCare claim to get a replacement pair of earpods earlier this
> morning. This was the second such claim for replacement earpods because the
> pair I'm having replaced now were a replacement in January, 2018. My
> understanding is that you qualify for two such earpod replacements under
> AppleCare Plus. I can't tell you how frustrating it was to get this claim
> filed. The initial person I spoke with had difficulty distinguishing my
> wired earpods from the very expensive Airpods and had to be corrected when
> she set up the claim incorrectly. She asked me to turn off Find my iPhone
> which I'm pretty sure is unnecessary when doing a warranty claim on a $30
> retail item. She ended up putting me on hold for about 10 minutes at which
> point I terminated the call and started over. The next guy I spoke with was
> a bit better but ended up transferring me to a Senior Advisor for some
> reason. When the Senior Advisor came on, she started talking about my
> Airpods claim. By this point, I was getting pretty frustrated and again
> explained that this was a DIY claim for a pair of $30 wired Earpods under my
> AppleCare, not for wireless Airpods. She then came back and said the claim
> required a $30 shipping charge. I told her she was incorrect and that the
> item cost $30 at retail with no shipping if I purchased it new from Apple
> Online. She again came back an said she couldn't waive the $30 shipping
> charge. I must admit that I was losing my patience by this point but went on
> in a somewhat louder voice that the way these DIY claims had always worked
> in the past was that Appple would take my credit card info, send the
> replacement item, provide me with a return shipping label that I could use
> with their turnaround envelope, and then credit me back the hold on my
> credit card when I returned the defective item. I strongly emphasized that I
> wondered if paying $130 for AppleCare Plus was worth it if I had to pull
> teeth to file a couple of warranty claims for a $30 item that probably cost
> Apple no more than $18. Finally, she said she did something different and
> the claim was now showing correctly that a hold would be placed on my credit
> card and cancelled when I returned the defective item and that no shipping
> charge would apply. She was not able to answer me when I asked her what she
> had done differently. It almost sounded as if she had refreshed her screen
> or some such thing.
>
>
>
> After spending at least 45 minutes on the phone getting this claim filed, I
> thought I'd write here to find out what others have experienced with
> AppleCare claims. I've had great success in the past but the last two I've
> filed for defective wired earpods replacement have not gone well. I don't
> know if this is a trend with the support reps who are fielding these calls
> but I thought I should ask the group. I try very hard to communicate clearly
> to avoid confusion and I'm pretty sure the problem is with the listening on
> the other end as opposed to what I'm saying on my end. Are others having
> good experiences when talking with AppleCare folks on the phone? Is there a
> better way to initiate one of these claims perhaps by using the Apple
> Support app or online with a computer and a web browser?
>
>
>
> Thanks for reading my rant and for any comments you can supply.
>
>
>
> Alan Lemly
>
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