Hello,

I am unsure what country you are in, and also how the system works
however most stores in the UK can print out your receipts from a few
years back with a scan of your credit card. The shop assistant
admitted he could do this, but it 'wasn't company policy.'

On 5/7/18, Sieghard Weitzel <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi James,
>
> As a retailer myself who deals with a lot of customers and warranties I
> completely agree with the merchant here. If you expect to have something
> replaced or repaired under warranty and proof of purchase is required then
> that proof should come from you and it should not be the responsibility of
> the merchant/store to try and figure out whether you bought the item. If the
> merchant has a computer system where they track sales that is different, we
> have that as well and if I have a customer as sometimes is the case who
> doesn't want to give us their information so we can put them into our
> database then I always explain to them that we primarily do this for the
> purpose of warranties and that if we don't have a record of the sale we
> can't help with the warranty unless the customer produces the sales receipt.
> Since we sell products with a 5-year or even lifetime warranty most people
> of course don't have their receipt 5 years or 10 years later.
> I am not sure what you mean by doing a simple credit card check. There is no
> easy way to look up if a customer purchased something from my store using
> just their credit card, if they know the exact day when the item was
> purchased I would have to dig out our copies of the receipts for that day
> and try to find the exact amount of the transaction and that of course only
> tells me how much they spent and not what item they bought, a credit card
> receipt is proof that they purchased something from my store, but it is not
> proof what it was they purchased and in some cases the item in question
> might even be something with a serial number such as an expensive pair of
> binoculars, a GPS or rifle.
>
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of James
> English
> Sent: Monday, May 7, 2018 12:44 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: AppleCare Plus Still Worth It? What's Your Experience?
>
> Hi Siegard,
>
> At least in the UK, I must disagree with you. Companies do not seem too
> generous with their warrantys, quite the opposite in fact. They have a
> tendency to refuse to perform a simple credit card check to make sure you
> bought the item, instead expecting you to have keep the receipt for it 9
> months ago; once you produce that you can be expected to provide proof you
> bought an extended warranty.
> The one exception I can find is pc world, which has pretty much provided me
> with a lifetime of free headphones. I use my headphones for work, recreation
> and university so they're going to die a lot quicker than most pairs; so the
> warranty is two years. The last pair of headphones I had which lasted a
> whole two years was probably when I was a child...and when I go in to
> replace these headphones, the warranty resets for free. I'm on my third
> pair.
>
> On 5/6/18, Carolyn Arnold <[email protected]> wrote:
>> I didn't explain why the ear buds instead of the flat type that come
>> with the phone. I wear hearing aids, and I can't get those hard flat
>> one in so that I can hear, but with the ones that do not have the hard
>> buds, I can manage.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Carolyn
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
>> Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
>> Sent: Sunday, May 6, 2018 12:37 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: RE: AppleCare Plus Still Worth It? What's Your Experience?
>>
>> I buy dollar ear buds and really like them. I don't know how well
>> anyone could hear me in the little microphone, so probably will use a
>> headset with my iPhone. I will use the ear buds when out to make calls
>> and things, because I do not like talking stuff out in the world.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Carolyn
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
>> Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
>> Sent: Sunday, May 6, 2018 11:13 AM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: RE: AppleCare Plus Still Worth It? What's Your Experience?
>>
>> Hi Alan,
>>
>>
>>
>> I usually find my experiences at Apple Stores are very good, but the
>> few times I called the main Apple custpomer service line it is often
>> the opposite. I have had good experiences there, but just as you I
>> often found the people they have answering their phones are not very
>> knowledgeable at all.
>>
>> By the way, I read that Apple’s cost to manufacture their phones is
>> about 35% of what they are sold for at retail and that apparently
>> Apple keeps their margins about the same. This would mean that a set
>> of $30 /Earpods would cost about $10 to make, but I somehow have a
>> feeling it is much less than that because the actual value of the
>> components can’t be more than $4 or $5 and in the same article which
>> was a few years old and was talking about the iPhone 5S I think said
>> that while the components of the phone cost about $200 the actual
>> manufacturing cost was only $8. If I consider a factory which produces
>> headsets where probably millions of the things are pumped out
>> constantly they just have to be cheap. The same formular applied to
>> the Airpods would indicate the cost of a set of Airpods is about $55
>> for Apple with a bit over $100 in profit (of course shipping costs
>> must be deducted from that at least for the portion of Airpods which
>> are ordered online and where Apple offers free shipping. Let’s face
>> it, there is a reason why Apple is the richest company in the world, I
>> wish I could get away having a 65% profit margin.
>>
>> I also agree that Apple Care Plus is less attractive nowadays since it
>> has become so much more expensive. It used to be $79, I think now on
>> the iPhone X it is $199 and adding Apple Care Plus is just simply
>> expensive nowadays.
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Sieghard
>>
>>
>>
>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of
>> Alan Lemly
>> Sent: Saturday, May 5, 2018 9:57 AM
>> To: VIPhone Email List <[email protected]>
>> Subject: AppleCare Plus Still Worth It? What's Your Experience?
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi List,
>>
>>
>>
>> I've always been a major proponent of purchasing AppleCare Plus when
>> buying a new iPhone. My reasoning is that these devices are not
>> inexpensive and since they are constantly being carried around, the
>> opportunity for accidents or physical wear and tear is fairly
>> substantial. I'm starting to have second thoughts after my last two
>> experiences filing a warranty claim under AppleCare Plus.
>>
>>
>>
>> I've posted on this list about an issue I'm having with my wired Apple
>> earpods and thanks to comments on this list was able to confirm that
>> the microphone on those earpods was starting to fail. I initiated over
>> the phone an AppleCare claim to get a replacement pair of earpods
>> earlier this morning. This was the second such claim for replacement
>> earpods because the pair I'm having replaced now were a replacement in
>> January, 2018. My understanding is that you qualify for two such
>> earpod replacements under AppleCare Plus. I can't tell you how
>> frustrating it was to get this claim filed. The initial person I spoke
>> with had difficulty distinguishing my wired earpods from the very
>> expensive Airpods and had to be corrected when she set up the claim
>> incorrectly. She asked me to turn off Find my iPhone which I'm pretty
>> sure is unnecessary when doing a warranty claim on a $30 retail item.
>> She ended up putting me on hold for about 10 minutes at which point I
>> terminated the call and started over. The next guy I spoke with was a
>> bit better but ended up transferring me to a Senior Advisor for some
>> reason. When the Senior Advisor came on, she started talking about my
>> Airpods claim. By this point, I was getting pretty frustrated and
>> again explained that this was a DIY claim for a pair of $30 wired
>> Earpods under my AppleCare, not for wireless Airpods. She then came
>> back and said the claim required a $30 shipping charge. I told her she
>> was incorrect and that the item cost $30 at retail with no shipping if
>> I purchased it new from Apple Online. She again came back an said she
>> couldn't waive the $30 shipping charge. I must admit that I was losing
>> my patience by this point but went on in a somewhat louder voice that
>> the way these DIY claims had always worked in the past was that Appple
>> would take my credit card info, send the replacement item, provide me
>> with a return shipping label that I could use with their turnaround
>> envelope, and then credit me back the hold on my credit card when I
>> returned the defective item. I strongly emphasized that I wondered if
>> paying $130 for AppleCare Plus was worth it if I had to pull teeth to
>> file a couple of warranty claims for a $30 item that probably cost
>> Apple no more than $18. Finally, she said she did something different
>> and the claim was now showing correctly that a hold would be placed on
>> my credit card and cancelled when I returned the defective item and
>> that no shipping charge would apply. She was not able to answer me when I
>> asked her what she had done differently. It almost sounded as if she had
>> refreshed her screen or some such thing.
>>
>>
>>
>> After spending at least 45 minutes on the phone getting this claim
>> filed, I thought I'd write here to find out what others have
>> experienced with AppleCare claims. I've had great success in the past
>> but the last two I've filed for defective wired earpods replacement
>> have not gone well. I don't know if this is a trend with the support
>> reps who are fielding these calls but I thought I should ask the
>> group. I try very hard to communicate clearly to avoid confusion and
>> I'm pretty sure the problem is with the listening on the other end as
>> opposed to what I'm saying on my end. Are others having good
>> experiences when talking with AppleCare folks on the phone? Is there a
>> better way to initiate one of these claims perhaps by using the Apple
>> Support app or online with a computer and a web browser?
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks for reading my rant and for any comments you can supply.
>>
>>
>>
>> Alan Lemly
>>
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