Hi

This topic sparked my interest & curiosity. When going to settings, general, 
iPhone. The Bard Mobile app takes up 5.5MB. The Documents & Data in the app 
uses 4.96GB. This makes sense, being I have 46 books downloaded & the average 
length of each book is 8-12 hours. Not sure why your numbers are much lower. 🤔🤔🤔

Donna
> 
> Thanks for your reply, Alan.  Spurred by your calculations, and recalling 
> that the BARD app stored its content in the app under a previous iOS version 
> and a previous iPhone, I did some testing, and I discovered something 
> surprising:  even after downloading three more books, two of which are over 
> ten hours, the BARD app is reported as still taking up only 5.5 MB of 
> storage.  However, the total number of bytes stored in the iPhone rose by 300 
> MB.  Perhaps I should uninstall and reinstall the app, or perhaps I should 
> write the developers and ask why the app is behaving in this way.  This odd 
> behavior has me curious.
> 
> Craig
> 
>> On Wed, Sep 26, 2018 at 7:38 PM Alan Lemly <wale...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi Craig,
>> 
>> Under Settings, General, iPhone Storage, my iPhone 8 is reporting BARD 
>> Mobile is using 1.74GB. I've got 13 audiobooks loaded into BARD Mobile of 
>> varying lengths but if you consider that an hour of BARD audio is a bit less 
>> than 10MB in size, a book of 10 hours would use about 100MB of space which 
>> would work out to 1.3GB in my case. So I'm assuming some of my books are 
>> longer than 10 hours and the math seems to work.
>> 
>> Alan Lemly
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Craig Werner
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2018 3:49 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Where Does the BARD App Store Its Downloads?
>> 
>> Thank you, Mark, for jumping in.
>> 
>> I admit my question is prompted by curiosity.  Knowing the answer won't 
>> assure that I will use the app more skillfully.  At any rate, implicit in my 
>> question is another one: Is my experience about the BARD app's low storage 
>> content the same as other people's?  Since no one has said this is odd, I'm 
>> concluding that this is normal.  I have never before run into a situation 
>> where an app's downloaded files are not included in the app's storage area 
>> itself, and I wonder why the BARD folks made the app act in this way.  In 
>> the case of the Audible, Kindle, and iBooks apps, for instance, I'm pretty 
>> sure the app's files are embedded where one might expect them.  Oh well, 
>> life is too short to ponder everything.  The bottom line is that the BARD 
>> app works very well overall, and I'm glad to have it.
>> 
>> Craig
>> 
>> On 9/26/18, M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu> wrote:
>> > Hello Craig,
>> >
>> > You ask an interesting question to which, I think there is no clear answer.
>> > Apple employs its own file system that, for better or worse, is 
>> > somewhat of a mystery to most of us.
>> >
>> > I suspect that the various app data, such as books for BARD, are 
>> > stored all across the storage device in the most efficient 
>> > configuration possible.  In short, I don't think the actual files live in 
>> > any one place on the drive.
>> > For example, when I look at the amount of BARD storage space used on 
>> > my 8 Plus, it reports 5.5GB; I have over 30 titles downloaded two of 
>> > which are over 72 hours of audio, each.  Perhaps the OS reserves so 
>> > much default storage space for particular app; this is just a guess, of 
>> > course.
>> >
>> > This is why I assert that if one truly wants to wipe the internal 
>> > storage completely clean, the phone much be setup as a new device in 
>> > order to erase all of the current data and fresh copies of the OS and 
>> > apps, installed.  At present, one can only accomplish this via iTunes on a 
>> > computer.
>> >
>> > Mark
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> > Behalf Of Craig Werner
>> > Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2018 7:19 AM
>> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> > Subject: Re: Where Does the BARD App Store Its Downloads?
>> >
>> > It seems certain the BARD books are downloaded to the iOS device.  
>> > Why, then, does the BARD app still appear to be taking up only 5.5 MB 
>> > of iPhone storage with two downloaded books?  Where do these books 
>> > live on the device?
>> >
>> > Thanks.
>> >
>> > Craig
>> >
>> > On Wed, Sep 26, 2018 at 9:59 AM Russ Kiehne <russ94...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >     The books are downloaded to your ios device.  The reason I know 
>> > this, The books will play with airplane mode turned on.
>> >
>> > From: Robert Wright
>> > Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2018 7:03 PM
>> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> > Subject: RE: Where Does the BARD App Store Its Downloads?
>> >
>> >                 I don t think it actually downloads to your iDevice. I 
>> > believe that there may be a sort of temporary cloud storage that you 
>> > stream from.
>> >
>> > character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for you!
>> >                              ***
>> >
>> > From: Craig Werner
>> > Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2018 9:40 AM
>> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> > Subject: Where Does the BARD App Store Its Downloads?
>> >
>> > Greetings to the list.
>> >
>> > I am using the BARD app on iOS 11.4.1, and I notice that when I go to 
>> > "Settings -> General -> iPhone Usage," the BARD app fills only 5.5MB 
>> > even though two relatively full-length books have been dowloaded.
>> > "Documents and Data" under the app take up only a few kilobytes of 
>> > storage.  Where on the iPhone are my two books kept?
>> >
>> > Thank you very much for all help.
>> >
>> > Craig
>> >
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