Craig,

 

That is curious. I would think it should be fairly straightforward for the 
iPhone to calculate and properly report how much storage each app is using. 
Keep us posted if you learn what's up.

 

Alan

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Craig Werner
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2018 7:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Where Does the BARD App Store Its Downloads?

 

Thanks for your reply, Alan.  Spurred by your calculations, and recalling that 
the BARD app stored its content in the app under a previous iOS version and a 
previous iPhone, I did some testing, and I discovered something surprising:  
even after downloading three more books, two of which are over ten hours, the 
BARD app is reported as still taking up only 5.5 MB of storage.  However, the 
total number of bytes stored in the iPhone rose by 300 MB.  Perhaps I should 
uninstall and reinstall the app, or perhaps I should write the developers and 
ask why the app is behaving in this way.  This odd behavior has me curious.

 

Craig

 

On Wed, Sep 26, 2018 at 7:38 PM Alan Lemly <wale...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Craig,

Under Settings, General, iPhone Storage, my iPhone 8 is reporting BARD Mobile 
is using 1.74GB. I've got 13 audiobooks loaded into BARD Mobile of varying 
lengths but if you consider that an hour of BARD audio is a bit less than 10MB 
in size, a book of 10 hours would use about 100MB of space which would work out 
to 1.3GB in my case. So I'm assuming some of my books are longer than 10 hours 
and the math seems to work.

Alan Lemly

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Craig Werner
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2018 3:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Where Does the BARD App Store Its Downloads?

Thank you, Mark, for jumping in.

I admit my question is prompted by curiosity.  Knowing the answer won't assure 
that I will use the app more skillfully.  At any rate, implicit in my question 
is another one: Is my experience about the BARD app's low storage content the 
same as other people's?  Since no one has said this is odd, I'm concluding that 
this is normal.  I have never before run into a situation where an app's 
downloaded files are not included in the app's storage area itself, and I 
wonder why the BARD folks made the app act in this way.  In the case of the 
Audible, Kindle, and iBooks apps, for instance, I'm pretty sure the app's files 
are embedded where one might expect them.  Oh well, life is too short to ponder 
everything.  The bottom line is that the BARD app works very well overall, and 
I'm glad to have it.

Craig

On 9/26/18, M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu> wrote:
> Hello Craig,
>
> You ask an interesting question to which, I think there is no clear answer.
> Apple employs its own file system that, for better or worse, is 
> somewhat of a mystery to most of us.
>
> I suspect that the various app data, such as books for BARD, are 
> stored all across the storage device in the most efficient 
> configuration possible.  In short, I don't think the actual files live in any 
> one place on the drive.
> For example, when I look at the amount of BARD storage space used on 
> my 8 Plus, it reports 5.5GB; I have over 30 titles downloaded two of 
> which are over 72 hours of audio, each.  Perhaps the OS reserves so 
> much default storage space for particular app; this is just a guess, of 
> course.
>
> This is why I assert that if one truly wants to wipe the internal 
> storage completely clean, the phone much be setup as a new device in 
> order to erase all of the current data and fresh copies of the OS and 
> apps, installed.  At present, one can only accomplish this via iTunes on a 
> computer.
>
> Mark
>
>
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Craig Werner
> Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2018 7:19 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Where Does the BARD App Store Its Downloads?
>
> It seems certain the BARD books are downloaded to the iOS device.  
> Why, then, does the BARD app still appear to be taking up only 5.5 MB 
> of iPhone storage with two downloaded books?  Where do these books 
> live on the device?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Craig
>
> On Wed, Sep 26, 2018 at 9:59 AM Russ Kiehne <russ94...@gmail.com> wrote:
>     The books are downloaded to your ios device.  The reason I know 
> this, The books will play with airplane mode turned on.
>
> From: Robert Wright
> Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2018 7:03 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Where Does the BARD App Store Its Downloads?
>
>                 I don t think it actually downloads to your iDevice. I 
> believe that there may be a sort of temporary cloud storage that you 
> stream from.
>
> character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for you!
>                              ***
>
> From: Craig Werner
> Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2018 9:40 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Where Does the BARD App Store Its Downloads?
>
> Greetings to the list.
>
> I am using the BARD app on iOS 11.4.1, and I notice that when I go to 
> "Settings -> General -> iPhone Usage," the BARD app fills only 5.5MB 
> even though two relatively full-length books have been dowloaded.
> "Documents and Data" under the app take up only a few kilobytes of 
> storage.  Where on the iPhone are my two books kept?
>
> Thank you very much for all help.
>
> Craig
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