They have also talked bad about android as well so i don't see what the big deal is. If apple sucks sometimes it sucks. It's okay it won't stop you from using an IPhone.
On 10/28/18, Mary Otten <[email protected]> wrote: > I totally agree. My problem is with the publication. Forbs has been for > sometime now very critical available. That is their right. But they are not > equally critical of Google. That’s the problem I have. Plus, if you have an > iPhone that is three years old and you can use the very latest features, all > of them, try that with android and see how far you get. > Mary > > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Oct 28, 2018, at 9:27 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Mary, >> >> New versions of iOS often did not offer the full feature set to older >> devices and in some cases if hardware constraints make this impossible >> then that is just how it is. If Apple decides to do this deliberately then >> it's a different story, but if that is what they do then that is what they >> do. It is their hardware and while you bought it it's definitely their >> software which they make available for free and under their license terms >> so they can do what they want. >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of >> Mary Otten >> Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2018 9:18 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: Apple iOS 12.1 Release Has A Nasty Surprise, Forbes >> >> Yes. Sure. So it’s OK for phones to be issued now that have last year‘s >> operating system and that’s no big deal. But it’s a problem when Apple’s >> newest operating system doesn’t have every feature available to older >> phones. Right. Bull nuts. >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Oct 28, 2018, at 9:13 PM, Christopher Chaltain <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>> The carriers are in the loop, but they're by no means the only culprit >>> here. Google pushes out new versions of Android, the manufacturers need >>> to pick up these new versions and fold them into their own code bases and >>> test them on their own devices and then turn around and make this >>> available to the carriers for them to do something similar. This does >>> take longer, but Google, the manufacturers and the carriers could all do >>> more to make this process happen more quickly. Google has helped with >>> Project Treble, where the hardware enablement piece is separate from the >>> rest of the operating system, but manufacturers and carriers also add >>> their own skins. Google also makes the new versions of the operating >>> system available early to the manufacturers, but Google is also pushing >>> out fixes to this code right up until it's officially released, causing >>> the manufacturers and carriers to start over again, although with less >>> and less effort each time. Note that this is for major versions of >>> Android and not security patches, which get out to devices much more >>> timely. >>> >>> >>> The entire Android ecosystem needs to address the issue with >>> fragmentation, ongoing support of older devices and getting updates out >>> to all devices more quickly. Fragmentation is a two edged sword though. >>> Having multiple manufacturers involved and a more open ecosystem does has >>> it's advantages, such as cheaper devices, more form factors and a greater >>> degree of customization. IMHO, each ecosystem has their own advantages >>> and disadvantages, and it's good that as blind consumers, we have >>> accessible choices. >>> >>> >>> >>>> On 10/28/18 10:54 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: >>>> Not sure if it's so much that Android takes longer, in many cases people >>>> who buy an Android device never get updates but to a large degree that >>>> maybe the fault of the carriers. Apple has made it a condition from day >>>> 1 of the iPhone that they would have control over updates and they >>>> completely cut carriers out from that. >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf >>>> Of lenron brown >>>> Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2018 6:18 PM >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Subject: Re: Apple iOS 12.1 Release Has A Nasty Surprise, Forbes >>>> >>>> Everyone knows that android takes a bit longer to get updates. >>>> Considering the fact that there are many different makers of devices >>>> and stuff. Apple is one company remember? Anyways I am sure many will >>>> be ok with just audio calls. >>>> >>>>> On 10/28/18, Mary Otten <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> Major Jan. I thought apple said at the beginning that this feature >>>>> wouldn’t be available for all of the phones that could run the OS. >>>>> Where is Forbes magazine when it comes to the fact that after three >>>>> months, the latest android system doesn’t even make the graph of >>>>> Andrea installs according to Andrea police? I guess that’s not a >>>>> calamity. The fact that an android system several years old has more >>>>> install base then the latest and greatest after three months isn’t a >>>>> calamity. Forbes just isn’t worth posting anywhere. They don’t like >>>>> apple and that’s fine. But who cares? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>>> On Oct 28, 2018, at 5:34 PM, M. Taylor <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Apple iOS 12.1 Release Has A Nasty Surprise By Gordon Kelly7:20 pm >>>>>> >>>>>> While iOS 12 was filled with great secret features, it also >>>>>> contained some significant bugs - including a particularly >>>>>> embarrassing one which carried over to iOS 12.0.1. Now Apple has >>>>>> its first major update ready - iOS 12.1 >>>>>> - >>>>>> but a nasty surprise hides behind its biggest new feature. >>>>>> Apple iOS 12.1 brings the highly anticipated launch of Group >>>>>> FaceTime video calls. Initially promised for iOS 12, the feature >>>>>> was pushed back to this release. But Apple's small print reveals >>>>>> the sad reality is millions of iPhone and iPad owners will never be >>>>>> able to use it. >>>>>> >>>>>> Apple iOS 12Apple >>>>>> Spotted by 9to5Mac, Apple's user guide for iOS 12.1 states that >>>>>> Group FaceTime will not be coming to many iOS 12-compatible iPhones >>>>>> and iPads. >>>>>> Missing out are the iPhone 5S, iPhone 6, iPhone 6 Plus, iPad Air, >>>>>> iPad Mini 2, iPad Mini 3, iPad Mini 4 and 6th generation iPod >>>>>> Touch. >>>>>> Yes, that's a lot of excluded devices. But why? >>>>>> Apple doesn't spell it out, but the answer appears to be performance. >>>>>> Group >>>>>> FaceTime video calls are processor intensive and no devices running >>>>>> an A8 chipset or earlier are compatible. The A8X chipset on the >>>>>> iPad Air 2, however, just scrapes in. Notably, the A9-powered >>>>>> iPhone SE also works fine. >>>>>> >>>>>> But there is some compensation. >>>>>> >>>>>> Group FaceTime in iOS 12.1 has limited iPhone and iPad supportApple >>>>>> Apple has confirmed iPhone 5S, iPhone 6 and iPhone 6 Plus owners >>>>>> will get support for audio-only Group FaceTime calls. Calling this >>>>>> 'FaceTime' >>>>>> without >>>>>> any faces is probably a stretch, but it's better than nothing. >>>>>> That said, I expect there will be a lot of angry iPhone and iPad >>>>>> users feeling shortchanged once Apple releases iOS 12.1 (expected next >>>>>> week). >>>>>> There will also be blowback since Apple hasn't widely notified >>>>>> users that, even if they have a compatible iPhone or iPad, Group >>>>>> FaceTime will be geographically limited at launch. No details are >>>>>> known at this time, but Apple should reveal the rollout at its >>>>>> upcoming iPad event. >>>>>> In the company's defence, Apple's long-term support for its devices >>>>>> is unparalleled. But excluding all these models from Group FaceTime >>>>>> video calls (when surely lower resolution calls were an option) >>>>>> seems to be a hint Apple would like owners of these older iPhones >>>>>> and iPads to upgrade. >>>>>> Certainly, on the face of it, the iPhone XR may need a little help. >>>>>> >>>>>> Original Article at: >>>>>> https://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2018/10/27/apple-ios-12-1- >>>>>> release-g roup-facetime-iphone-ipad-upgrade/#216ce6ac5f8a >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> The following information is important for all members of the V >>>>>> iPhone list. >>>>>> >>>>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this >>>>>> list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please >>>>>> contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the >>>>>> list itself. >>>>>> >>>>>> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >>>>>> [email protected]. 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