Hi Tracy,
Where did you find the manual for this treadmill? I assume it might be on the 
manufacturers website. I was there, but wasn’t really looking for a manual. 
Then I went to that treadmill reviews site, the same one where Cristobal linked 
to for his   treadmill.

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> On Nov 8, 2018, at 8:51 AM, Traci Duncan <our4p...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Mary, I did see the reviews for the app. They are pretty awful. That is 
> why I’m hoping the Bluetooth capabilities can bypass the app and sync up with 
> Apple health or my fitness pal.
> 
> I read the manual for the F63, and I’m pretty sure it has a safety key. 
> Definitely check it out and let us know. I did not walk on the treadmill, but 
> from what I’ve read, it sounds like it’ll be very quiet.
> 
> Tracy 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 8, 2018, at 8:42 AM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Tracy,
>> I hope to see that treadmill this weekend at a local sporting goods store 
>> which has it in stock. The reviews for the apps are universally horrid. So I 
>> wouldn’t count on much there. I mean, it has one star from pretty much 
>> everybody who read it. The only thing I don’t like based on what I read is 
>> that they review did not mention a stop button or a safety lanyard. Since I 
>> have neuropathy, I’m hoping that was just an oversight in the review. The 
>> next model up, the F 80, is also reviewed on that same website, and they do 
>> mention both a start button and the safety lanyard. It’s more expensive. But 
>> you can’t put a price on your health and safety.
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Nov 8, 2018, at 8:19 AM, Traci Duncan <our4p...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Mary, have you seen the Sole Treadmill? I went and looked at the F63 and 
>>> really liked it. It has the controls on the arms, and most of the buttons 
>>> on the unit are large rubber ones. The remaining buttons look like they may 
>>> be easy to braille. The F63 now has bluetooth capability and can connect up 
>>> to three or four different apps. I am hoping this part is accessible. After 
>>> I walk on the treadmill, I hope to see my status inside the Apple health 
>>> app. The F63 model is the one that is tempting me,  the $899 price is the 
>>> best I have seen.
>>> 
>>> Traci
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Nov 8, 2018, at 8:07 AM, Cristobal Muñoz <cristobalm...@gmail.com> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Brag brag. Brag. Brag. Brag. Some of us have to make more of an effort to 
>>>> maintain our svelte-like figure you know.
>>>> My first choice is to go for a stroll with my wife. For this, I use the 
>>>> Map My Walk app. It had some VO bugs in the past, but it seems they've 
>>>> since been resolved and now it plays well with VoiceOver. I aim for at the 
>>>> very least 2 miles a day and more often than not, am around 3 to 3.5 miles 
>>>> for a walk a day. With more on the weekends or when I really want to go 
>>>> for a pseudo-hike. Where we we live though, going for a walk every day 
>>>> isn't always feasible. 100º or more weather and now, we're into the Santa 
>>>> Ana wind season. We're expecting another event later today and tomorrow. 
>>>> Not going to go walking in all that nasty wind.`
>>>> Since I work from home and have to make more of the effort to get moving, 
>>>> I wanted to get something that was better put together. I've tried going 
>>>> cheap with treadmills in the past, but yeah . . . if you're a 
>>>> bigger/taller person, you need to spend a little more if you don't want to 
>>>> be stepping on something that's going to shake every single time you take 
>>>> a step. 
>>>> I had a spread sheet of the models with their corresponding specs and once 
>>>> I identified the ones I really was interested in, I added them to my Honey 
>>>> coupon list and waited for a deal. It took around three months, but when 
>>>> the Amazon alert came in, I was all over the Nautilus like ugly on an ape. 
>>>> There were also some machines that supposedly work with the Google Fitness 
>>>> app/service, but I didn't want to be tied into a paid subscription plan. 
>>>> Being able to check my results after my walk is good enough for me. 
>>>> A side note, the guy Amazon contracted to put my treadmill together was 
>>>> deaf mute. We communicated via text message on our iPhones. Technology 
>>>> man. The great equalizer. 
>>>> 
>>>> Cristóbal
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of 
>>>> Sieghard Weitzel
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 7, 2018 9:18 PM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: RE: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app
>>>> 
>>>> That was $995 or whatever US, but still that would be $1,300 or or so 
>>>> Canadian at the current exchange rate which is pretty much half of what it 
>>>> is being listed for on Amazon.ca. Anyhow, I haven't checked other places, 
>>>> I'm sure between Walmart, Best Buy and so on one can find a better deal, 
>>>> but then again I'm not looking. I have a 20 minute walk from my house to 
>>>> my store every morning and another one back in the evening although if I 
>>>> walk quite fast I can do It in 15, it's about 1.2 or 1.3 Km each way, 
>>>> about a mile and a half return for all you Americans.
>>>> My store is 2 floors so I usually run up and down the stairs at least a 
>>>> half a dozen times each day which is a couple of hundred steps and 
>>>> especially in the winter month my wife and I try to get to the pool at 
>>>> least once a week. Of course one can always do more exercise, but what I 
>>>> do seems to be enough to maintain my weight at about    175 pounds give or 
>>>> take 3 or 4 pounds. I am 5 feet 11 inches and my involvement in 
>>>> competitive gymnastics before I became blind at the age of 16 along with 
>>>> growing up on a farm seems to have given me a base level of fitness which 
>>>> even without doing that much nowadays I still maintain and benefit from.
>>>> 
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Sieghard
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Reg 
>>>> Sullivan
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 7, 2018 8:49 PM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: RE: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app
>>>> 
>>>> Not sure where or when Cristóbal bought this unit at less than $1k.  I 
>>>> would love one at that price!
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers....Reg
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>>> Of Sieghard Weitzel
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2018 11:26 PM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: RE: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Reg,
>>>> 
>>>> Go ahead and order two, I'll stop by and pick it up in a few weeks, take 
>>>> you out for dinner for the trouble, too.
>>>> Just looked this T618 up on Amazon.ca and while in the article/review it 
>>>> said something about $1,299 which I assume was US Dollars, on Amazon.ca 
>>>> this thing is listed for $2,749, add to this taxes and it will be 
>>>> $3,000... ridiculous.
>>>> 
>>>> If you order one
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Reg 
>>>> Sullivan
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 7, 2018 2:08 PM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: RE: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app
>>>> 
>>>> WOW, what a great review, I think you just sold it.
>>>> I want one!
>>>> 
>>>> Reg
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>>> Of Cristobal Muñoz
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2018 4:46 PM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: RE: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app
>>>> 
>>>> I have the Nautilus T618: https://www.treadmillreviews.net/nautilus-t618/
>>>> I'm 6-2 FT tall. So for me, the longer and wider belt for me was a 
>>>> necessity. It has a capacity of up to 350 LBS. I fluctuate between 212 and 
>>>> 230 LBS throughout the year depending on the season (holiday eating here 
>>>> we come baby) and usually throw on a 30/40 LBS backpack and hiking boots 
>>>> for the extra calorie burn and resistance. So having an all-around 
>>>> sturdier machine was also something I was looking for when I was deciding 
>>>> on what to get. 
>>>> There are a bunch of machines with similar specs, but what sold me on this 
>>>> was the fact that yes, while there is an LCD display and it is menu driven 
>>>> like with lots of machines isn't ideal if you're blind, the speed and 
>>>> elevation controls are distinguishable tactile buttons instead of a touch 
>>>> screen Honestly, I just speed up and slow down, increase and decrease the 
>>>> elevation manually and don’t' bother with the programs. The other huge 
>>>> plus is that the safety rails are longer than your average treadmill and 
>>>> there are speed/elevation controls built into them so you don't have to 
>>>> hassle with fiddling feeling around on the front consul and can keep your 
>>>> hands on/around the rails for safety. You can set up to four profiles so 
>>>> that it can remember your weight/height or whatever. My sighted wife just 
>>>> knows to put it back to mine whenever she's done using it. 
>>>> As I mentioned, I mainly use the manual function and haven't really played 
>>>> with Run Social or those types of apps, but The associated Nautilus app is 
>>>> completely VoiceOver accessible. After my hike/walk, I can synchronize the 
>>>> workout and review my stats. Duration, speed, heart rate, calories burned. 
>>>> My Fitness Pal which it can also pare to is accessible. None of these apps 
>>>> that I know of will actually allow you the ability to control the machine. 
>>>> I'm not aware of any treadmill that does this. At least not in the way we 
>>>> would want it. I guess there's the line of Peloton treadmills that are 
>>>> Internet connected, but it's probably not what you're looking for. That 
>>>> and then you're talking around $4000. I don't know what your budget is. 
>>>> https://wwwtreadmillreviews.net/peloton-tread/
>>>> For me, this works more than fine with the easy to access controls. I just 
>>>> throw on my Aftershokz Trekz Air headphones and blast them timing myself 
>>>> by song. Jog for two, walk for five, full on run for three, etc. Being 
>>>> able to slow down or speed up via the rails is a major plus and 
>>>> convenience.
>>>> The T618 is the top model of the Nautilus line with two cheaper options 
>>>> that bump you down on motor power in case you or no one in your family is 
>>>> on the bigger side and don't need/want the higher weight capacity. I 
>>>> waited for it to go on sale and scored a deal via Amazon for $975 with 
>>>> free assembly. You really don’t' want to try putting this thing together. 
>>>> It's a beast. The description talks about foldable for storage, but yeah, 
>>>> once it's put together, it's not going anywhere. It weighs something like 
>>>> 280 LBS. My treadmill is in my garage and will stay there until I move or 
>>>> die.  
>>>> Whatever you choose, try if you can to get a  feel for them at any local 
>>>> retailer that has some models. I was fortunate that I was able to get a 
>>>> feel for this one and some others. It felt over all more solid and there  
>>>> were other things like the way the belt was in relation to the consul. The 
>>>> rail controls are what really sold me on it too. There was a proform I was 
>>>> interested in until I tried it and found that I kept on kicking the motor 
>>>> housing in the front due to the layout. Another I had to lean forward or 
>>>> down to reach the buttons. Others had weird feeling controls that would be 
>>>> hard to distinguish if you're at a jogging/running pace or a straight up 
>>>> touch screen. This sort of stuff is probably more important than app 
>>>> accessibility.
>>>> 
>>>> Cristóbal
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of 
>>>> Mary Otten
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 7, 2018 12:51 PM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com; macvisionar...@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app
>>>> 
>>>> Hi all,
>>>> I am strongly considering the purchase of a treadmill, and I would like to 
>>>> get one that has accessibility for controlling the machine via the iPhone. 
>>>> Sole treadmills right now having a great sale. And they have an app. But 
>>>> it gets universally awful reviews in the App Store. So I’m curious if 
>>>> anybody has any suggestions of something that works well.
>>>> Mary
>>>> 
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