Hi Tracy, I think this is an old manual. I saw a reference to a copyright date of 2004. Also, the description doesn’t seem to match what I read in the treadmill review, in that they’re talking about a dotmatrix display, where as the review talks about an LCD screen. And as you said, there’s no reference to Bluetooth. So I think it’s anybody’s guess with the new one might actually look like. Mary
Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 8, 2018, at 9:17 AM, Traci Duncan <our4p...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi Mary, here’s a link to the treadmill. Unfortunately, I don’t know what > date this manual is for, and I can’t find anything about the Bluetooth. > > https://www.soletreadmills.com/manuals/F63.pdf > > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Nov 8, 2018, at 9:04 AM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Hi Tracy, >> Where did you find the manual for this treadmill? I assume it might be on >> the manufacturers website. I was there, but wasn’t really looking for a >> manual. Then I went to that treadmill reviews site, the same one where >> Cristobal linked to for his treadmill. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Nov 8, 2018, at 8:51 AM, Traci Duncan <our4p...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Mary, I did see the reviews for the app. They are pretty awful. That is >>> why I’m hoping the Bluetooth capabilities can bypass the app and sync up >>> with Apple health or my fitness pal. >>> >>> I read the manual for the F63, and I’m pretty sure it has a safety key. >>> Definitely check it out and let us know. I did not walk on the treadmill, >>> but from what I’ve read, it sounds like it’ll be very quiet. >>> >>> Tracy >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On Nov 8, 2018, at 8:42 AM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Tracy, >>>> I hope to see that treadmill this weekend at a local sporting goods store >>>> which has it in stock. The reviews for the apps are universally horrid. So >>>> I wouldn’t count on much there. I mean, it has one star from pretty much >>>> everybody who read it. The only thing I don’t like based on what I read is >>>> that they review did not mention a stop button or a safety lanyard. Since >>>> I have neuropathy, I’m hoping that was just an oversight in the review. >>>> The next model up, the F 80, is also reviewed on that same website, and >>>> they do mention both a start button and the safety lanyard. It’s more >>>> expensive. But you can’t put a price on your health and safety. >>>> Mary >>>> >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>>> On Nov 8, 2018, at 8:19 AM, Traci Duncan <our4p...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Mary, have you seen the Sole Treadmill? I went and looked at the F63 and >>>>> really liked it. It has the controls on the arms, and most of the buttons >>>>> on the unit are large rubber ones. The remaining buttons look like they >>>>> may be easy to braille. The F63 now has bluetooth capability and can >>>>> connect up to three or four different apps. I am hoping this part is >>>>> accessible. After I walk on the treadmill, I hope to see my status inside >>>>> the Apple health app. The F63 model is the one that is tempting me, the >>>>> $899 price is the best I have seen. >>>>> >>>>> Traci >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>>> On Nov 8, 2018, at 8:07 AM, Cristobal Muñoz <cristobalm...@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Brag brag. Brag. Brag. Brag. Some of us have to make more of an effort >>>>>> to maintain our svelte-like figure you know. >>>>>> My first choice is to go for a stroll with my wife. For this, I use the >>>>>> Map My Walk app. It had some VO bugs in the past, but it seems they've >>>>>> since been resolved and now it plays well with VoiceOver. I aim for at >>>>>> the very least 2 miles a day and more often than not, am around 3 to 3.5 >>>>>> miles for a walk a day. With more on the weekends or when I really want >>>>>> to go for a pseudo-hike. Where we we live though, going for a walk every >>>>>> day isn't always feasible. 100º or more weather and now, we're into the >>>>>> Santa Ana wind season. We're expecting another event later today and >>>>>> tomorrow. Not going to go walking in all that nasty wind.` >>>>>> Since I work from home and have to make more of the effort to get >>>>>> moving, I wanted to get something that was better put together. I've >>>>>> tried going cheap with treadmills in the past, but yeah . . . if you're >>>>>> a bigger/taller person, you need to spend a little more if you don't >>>>>> want to be stepping on something that's going to shake every single time >>>>>> you take a step. >>>>>> I had a spread sheet of the models with their corresponding specs and >>>>>> once I identified the ones I really was interested in, I added them to >>>>>> my Honey coupon list and waited for a deal. It took around three months, >>>>>> but when the Amazon alert came in, I was all over the Nautilus like ugly >>>>>> on an ape. There were also some machines that supposedly work with the >>>>>> Google Fitness app/service, but I didn't want to be tied into a paid >>>>>> subscription plan. Being able to check my results after my walk is good >>>>>> enough for me. >>>>>> A side note, the guy Amazon contracted to put my treadmill together was >>>>>> deaf mute. We communicated via text message on our iPhones. Technology >>>>>> man. The great equalizer. >>>>>> >>>>>> Cristóbal >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of >>>>>> Sieghard Weitzel >>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 7, 2018 9:18 PM >>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>>>> Subject: RE: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app >>>>>> >>>>>> That was $995 or whatever US, but still that would be $1,300 or or so >>>>>> Canadian at the current exchange rate which is pretty much half of what >>>>>> it is being listed for on Amazon.ca. Anyhow, I haven't checked other >>>>>> places, I'm sure between Walmart, Best Buy and so on one can find a >>>>>> better deal, but then again I'm not looking. I have a 20 minute walk >>>>>> from my house to my store every morning and another one back in the >>>>>> evening although if I walk quite fast I can do It in 15, it's about 1.2 >>>>>> or 1.3 Km each way, about a mile and a half return for all you Americans. >>>>>> My store is 2 floors so I usually run up and down the stairs at least a >>>>>> half a dozen times each day which is a couple of hundred steps and >>>>>> especially in the winter month my wife and I try to get to the pool at >>>>>> least once a week. Of course one can always do more exercise, but what I >>>>>> do seems to be enough to maintain my weight at about 175 pounds give >>>>>> or take 3 or 4 pounds. I am 5 feet 11 inches and my involvement in >>>>>> competitive gymnastics before I became blind at the age of 16 along with >>>>>> growing up on a farm seems to have given me a base level of fitness >>>>>> which even without doing that much nowadays I still maintain and benefit >>>>>> from. >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards, >>>>>> Sieghard >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of >>>>>> Reg Sullivan >>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 7, 2018 8:49 PM >>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>>>> Subject: RE: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app >>>>>> >>>>>> Not sure where or when Cristóbal bought this unit at less than $1k. I >>>>>> would love one at that price! >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers....Reg >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On >>>>>> Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel >>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2018 11:26 PM >>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>>>> Subject: RE: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi Reg, >>>>>> >>>>>> Go ahead and order two, I'll stop by and pick it up in a few weeks, take >>>>>> you out for dinner for the trouble, too. >>>>>> Just looked this T618 up on Amazon.ca and while in the article/review it >>>>>> said something about $1,299 which I assume was US Dollars, on Amazon.ca >>>>>> this thing is listed for $2,749, add to this taxes and it will be >>>>>> $3,000... ridiculous. >>>>>> >>>>>> If you order one >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of >>>>>> Reg Sullivan >>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 7, 2018 2:08 PM >>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>>>> Subject: RE: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app >>>>>> >>>>>> WOW, what a great review, I think you just sold it. >>>>>> I want one! >>>>>> >>>>>> Reg >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On >>>>>> Behalf Of Cristobal Muñoz >>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2018 4:46 PM >>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>>>> Subject: RE: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app >>>>>> >>>>>> I have the Nautilus T618: https://www.treadmillreviews.net/nautilus-t618/ >>>>>> I'm 6-2 FT tall. So for me, the longer and wider belt for me was a >>>>>> necessity. It has a capacity of up to 350 LBS. I fluctuate between 212 >>>>>> and 230 LBS throughout the year depending on the season (holiday eating >>>>>> here we come baby) and usually throw on a 30/40 LBS backpack and hiking >>>>>> boots for the extra calorie burn and resistance. So having an all-around >>>>>> sturdier machine was also something I was looking for when I was >>>>>> deciding on what to get. >>>>>> There are a bunch of machines with similar specs, but what sold me on >>>>>> this was the fact that yes, while there is an LCD display and it is menu >>>>>> driven like with lots of machines isn't ideal if you're blind, the speed >>>>>> and elevation controls are distinguishable tactile buttons instead of a >>>>>> touch screen Honestly, I just speed up and slow down, increase and >>>>>> decrease the elevation manually and don’t' bother with the programs. The >>>>>> other huge plus is that the safety rails are longer than your average >>>>>> treadmill and there are speed/elevation controls built into them so you >>>>>> don't have to hassle with fiddling feeling around on the front consul >>>>>> and can keep your hands on/around the rails for safety. You can set up >>>>>> to four profiles so that it can remember your weight/height or whatever. >>>>>> My sighted wife just knows to put it back to mine whenever she's done >>>>>> using it. >>>>>> As I mentioned, I mainly use the manual function and haven't really >>>>>> played with Run Social or those types of apps, but The associated >>>>>> Nautilus app is completely VoiceOver accessible. After my hike/walk, I >>>>>> can synchronize the workout and review my stats. Duration, speed, heart >>>>>> rate, calories burned. My Fitness Pal which it can also pare to is >>>>>> accessible. None of these apps that I know of will actually allow you >>>>>> the ability to control the machine. I'm not aware of any treadmill that >>>>>> does this. At least not in the way we would want it. I guess there's the >>>>>> line of Peloton treadmills that are Internet connected, but it's >>>>>> probably not what you're looking for. That and then you're talking >>>>>> around $4000. I don't know what your budget is. >>>>>> https://wwwtreadmillreviews.net/peloton-tread/ >>>>>> For me, this works more than fine with the easy to access controls. I >>>>>> just throw on my Aftershokz Trekz Air headphones and blast them timing >>>>>> myself by song. Jog for two, walk for five, full on run for three, etc. >>>>>> Being able to slow down or speed up via the rails is a major plus and >>>>>> convenience. >>>>>> The T618 is the top model of the Nautilus line with two cheaper options >>>>>> that bump you down on motor power in case you or no one in your family >>>>>> is on the bigger side and don't need/want the higher weight capacity. I >>>>>> waited for it to go on sale and scored a deal via Amazon for $975 with >>>>>> free assembly. You really don’t' want to try putting this thing >>>>>> together. It's a beast. The description talks about foldable for >>>>>> storage, but yeah, once it's put together, it's not going anywhere. It >>>>>> weighs something like 280 LBS. My treadmill is in my garage and will >>>>>> stay there until I move or die. >>>>>> Whatever you choose, try if you can to get a feel for them at any local >>>>>> retailer that has some models. I was fortunate that I was able to get a >>>>>> feel for this one and some others. It felt over all more solid and there >>>>>> were other things like the way the belt was in relation to the consul. >>>>>> The rail controls are what really sold me on it too. There was a proform >>>>>> I was interested in until I tried it and found that I kept on kicking >>>>>> the motor housing in the front due to the layout. Another I had to lean >>>>>> forward or down to reach the buttons. Others had weird feeling controls >>>>>> that would be hard to distinguish if you're at a jogging/running pace or >>>>>> a straight up touch screen. This sort of stuff is probably more >>>>>> important than app accessibility. >>>>>> >>>>>> Cristóbal >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of >>>>>> Mary Otten >>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 7, 2018 12:51 PM >>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com; macvisionar...@googlegroups.com >>>>>> Subject: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>> I am strongly considering the purchase of a treadmill, and I would like >>>>>> to get one that has accessibility for controlling the machine via the >>>>>> iPhone. Sole treadmills right now having a great sale. And they have an >>>>>> app. But it gets universally awful reviews in the App Store. 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