Hopefully, they will all come back eventually. There are still people who have 
never had the problem. That’s when I don’t understand.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 6, 2018, at 4:20 PM, Richard Turner <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> 
> First, given the list of bugs, it is almost like they rebuilt the app.
> I have some My Tuner Radio shortcuts working. I have one Pandora shortcut 
> working and one that doesn't. They all worked prior to this month.
> So, maybe they will all work eventually, or not. It almost isn't worth it.
> Richard
> 
> 
> 
> "It is a great thing to start life with a small number of really good books 
> which are your very own." __  Sir Arthur Conan Doyle 
> 
>> On Dec 6, 2018, at 3:50 PM, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> The Shortcuts app was updated yesterday.  Notice #2 under bug fixes.  Here 
>> are the fixes from Shortcuts app release notes - Apple Support at:
>> https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fsupport.apple.com%2Fen-us%2FHT209087&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7C9a504f7d0fef4afa49fc08d65bd59aad%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636797370307407914&amp;sdata=N72KjBPq1OJ5oijnKxfG4taZRq7EEsSd8nMNCTeo1TA%3D&amp;reserved=0
>> 
>> What's new in Shortcuts 2.1.2
>> list of 2 items
>> • Added the Post to Tumblr action
>> • The Get Time Between Dates action can now count the number of months 
>> between two dates
>> list end
>> 
>> Bug fixes
>> list of 14 items
>> • Fixed an issue where the screen describing which apps and services are 
>> used by a shortcut may not appear when downloading a shortcut
>> • Fixed an issue that caused shortcuts with the Open App or Play Sound 
>> actions to fail when Siri is used to run the shortcuts
>> • Fixed an issue where shortcuts with Repeat with Each actions may freeze 
>> when they're run from the widget or Library 
>> • Fixed an issue where the Phone Number action may not understand phone 
>> numbers that contain commas (pauses) or have long extension codes
>> • Fixed an issue where the Show Directions action may not work when it's run 
>> from the Shortcuts Today View widget on the Lock screen
>> • Fixed an issue where the Add New Reminder action doesn't work when a time 
>> or location isn't entered
>> • Fixed an issue where the Send Payment action may not appear to finish when 
>> making Apple Pay Cash payments
>> • Fixed an issue where the Ask for Input action’s default answer field for 
>> dates wouldn’t support 24-hour time
>> • Fixed an issue where the Get Name of Emoji action showed the emoji name in 
>> English when the device is set to another language
>> • Fixed an issue where some shortcuts may show an error message when they're 
>> run from Search
>> • Fixed an issue where shortcuts may fail to download web pages with long 
>> Unicode titles
>> • Fixed an issue where the Run Editorial Workflow action doesn't pass a 
>> result
>> • iCloud sync improvements
>> • Localization improvements
>> list end
>> 
>> Kelly Hill
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Mary 
>> Otten
>> Sent: Thursday, December 6, 2018 3:00 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: Siri Shortcuts broken in 12.1
>> 
>> Well, this is really weird. I now have Shortcuts working on one device and 
>> not on the other. Go figure. As of this morning, they weren’t working at 
>> all. But I just tried them again on my iPhone XR, and to my surprise they 
>> worked. But no joy on the iPhone 7 Plus.
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Dec 6, 2018, at 2:53 PM, Jennie Facer <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Mine ween’t working at all yesterday but they are today. How strange.
>>> 
>>> Jenn
>>> 
>>> Jenn and Kumi
>>> 
>>>> On Dec 6, 2018, at 4:51 AM, Gerardo Corripio <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> After updating to 12.1.1, Siri shortcuts don’t seem to work here either. 
>>>> Apple hurry up and see what’s going on!
>>>> 
>>>> Gera
>>>> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel
>>>> 
>>>> El 5 dic 2018, a la(s) 12:18 p. m., 'Gail Selfridge' via VIPhone 
>>>> <[email protected]> escribió:
>>>> 
>>>>> Well, my Shortcuts stopped working now too. I certainly hope Apple fixes 
>>>>> this. I have an SE with iOS 12.1.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Gai well, my shortcuts stopped working now too. I certainly hope Apple 
>>>>> fixes this. I have an SE with iOS 12.1.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Gail
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Dec 4, 2018, at 7:20 PM, Richard Turner <[email protected]> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> HI Anna,
>>>>> My client nor I are running the betas, so something is fishy somewhere.
>>>>> I think I will simply wait until 12.1.1 or whatever they are going to 
>>>>> call it comes out and hope that by yours and others alerting them, it 
>>>>> gets fixed.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Richard
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> “Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip under 
>>>>> pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of 
>>>>> Anna Dresner
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 4, 2018 5:18 PM
>>>>> To: VIPhone Mailing List <[email protected]>
>>>>> Subject: Re: Siri Shortcuts broken in 12.1
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I have been running a beta on my phone for quite a while, and shortcuts 
>>>>> worked fine until I tried to use them last Friday, at which point I had 
>>>>> the same problem as you. I found that I had the same problem with my iPad 
>>>>> that was running the beta, but not with my 5s which wasn't. So I assumed 
>>>>> it was a beta issue until I heard from you. I called Apple Accessibility, 
>>>>> and the guy I spoke with was great. He had me try Siri with Wi-Fi turned 
>>>>> off and then reset network settings. None of that helped. He also tried 
>>>>> accessing a shortcut with Siri on his device with VoiceOver off and with 
>>>>> VoiceOver on, and everything worked normally both times. So he asked me 
>>>>> to roll a device back to iOS 12.1. I did that with my iPad, and Siri 
>>>>> shortcuts worked normally. I would suggest calling Apple Accessibility 
>>>>> and hoping you won't get the person Richard got. Most people there should 
>>>>> be able to walk you through sending in the diagnostic information they 
>>>>> need to figure out what's going on. I'm also going to report it as a beta 
>>>>> bug and will mention that I know of people running iOS 12.1 who are 
>>>>> having the problem.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Best,
>>>>> Anna
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Dec 4, 2018, at 7:06 PM, Richard Turner <[email protected]> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Gerardo,
>>>>>> Part of me thinks it is about time something worked better outside the 
>>>>>> United States, since we usually get the better end of the deal; while 
>>>>>> part of me is really ticked that Apple messed this up.
>>>>>> I hope it continues to work for you.
>>>>>> Richard
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> "It is a great thing to start life with a small number of really good 
>>>>>> books which are your very own." __  Sir Arthur Conan Doyle 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Dec 4, 2018, at 4:46 PM, Gerardo Corripio <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> shorcuts working as always here in Mexico if this helps out some; also 
>>>>>>> using latest iOS on an iPhone SE.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Gera
>>>>>>> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> El 4 dic 2018, a la(s) 5:44 p. m., Mary Otten <[email protected]> 
>>>>>>> escribió:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I put this question on another list that I am on, and one person, who 
>>>>>>>> doesn’t live in the US, replied that the shortcuts are still working 
>>>>>>>> for him. Thus far, that is the only useful response I have gotten from 
>>>>>>>> that other list. This is very strange.
>>>>>>>> Mary
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Dec 4, 2018, at 12:30 PM, Richard Turner 
>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Mary,
>>>>>>>>> I'm not sure it is either exactly. The Shortcuts app was updated 4 
>>>>>>>>> weeks ago according to the app store.
>>>>>>>>> So, since both iOS 12.1 and the app were updated longer ago than 
>>>>>>>>> yesterday, maybe it is a server issue with Siri or something really 
>>>>>>>>> odd. I would encourage everyone to write Apple since clearly, they 
>>>>>>>>> are clueless that something has gone very wrong.
>>>>>>>>> Richard
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> "It is a great thing to start life with a small number of really good 
>>>>>>>>> books which are your very own." __  Sir Arthur Conan Doyle 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 4, 2018, at 11:29 AM, Mary Otten <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Hi richard,
>>>>>>>>>> Well mine don’t work either. But it doesn’t seem to be dependent on 
>>>>>>>>>> voiceover being off or on. And it didn’t start with iOS 12.1, since 
>>>>>>>>>> they did work after I updated. Only yesterday, they stopped. So I 
>>>>>>>>>> don’t know what it is. But I don’t think it’s the latest iOS, and it 
>>>>>>>>>> isn’t voiceover either, because if I turn voiceover off and try to 
>>>>>>>>>> do a shortcut, it doesn’t work. Not that we shouldn’t write Apple. I 
>>>>>>>>>> can’t believe this problem has it been all over the tech press. It’s 
>>>>>>>>>> really annoying.
>>>>>>>>>> Mary
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 4, 2018, at 10:05 AM, Richard Turner 
>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> A client who has an iPhone x told me her Siri Shortcuts have 
>>>>>>>>>>> stopped working since iOS 12.1.
>>>>>>>>>>> She demonstrated that they have indeed stopped working. Even after 
>>>>>>>>>>> rerecording a phrase.
>>>>>>>>>>> I tested some on my iPhone SE and on my work iPhone 8 plus, with 
>>>>>>>>>>> the same bad results.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> They worked fine in iOS 12. 
>>>>>>>>>>> I called Apple Accessibility, and even after explaining that these 
>>>>>>>>>>> are ones we created in Siri and had used before, he treated us like 
>>>>>>>>>>> ignorant people and insisted they work. But, when I asked if he had 
>>>>>>>>>>> tried it with VoiceOver, he ignored me. 
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm writing Apple Accessibility and would encourage anyone else who 
>>>>>>>>>>> are experiencing this issue write them as well. If you found a work 
>>>>>>>>>>> around, please share.
>>>>>>>>>>> Richard
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
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