what do you mean set up Gmail through the Apple thing on the phone. I thought that's what I did. I thought it was in passwords and accounts. from my iPhone
> On May 11, 2020, at 1:57 PM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote: > > First, the Apple advisor was wrong. The confusing edit box messages on web > pages is an Apple issue, which I understand is fixed in 13.5 when it comes > out. > If you are going to stick with the Gmail app, you will likely continue > finding all these issues in mail. > The Apple default mail app handles Gmail accounts very well. > You should, at the very least, setup your gmail account in Settings, > Passwords and accounts, and try it out before dumping the phone or Apple. > Good luck with Android if you do leave Apple. > > > Richard > Linus to Charlie Brown: "Worrying won't stop the bad stuff from happening, it > just stops you from enjoying the good." > > Sent with the iPhone SE 2020 > www.turner42.com > > >>> On May 11, 2020, at 10:36 AM, deidre muccio <deidreandlou...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >> Hello all, >>> Before hitting the list with more complaints about how jumpy my new SE2 >>> with IOS 13.4.1 is, I called Apple Accessibility this morning to sort out >>> what features I might be able to eliminate and to demo the kinds of voice >>> over problems I was having. We screen shared so that the person at the >>> other end of the line could see what was happening on my screen in real >>> time. >>> Remember now that I have updated from using an I phone 6 with 12.4.6, >>> which did everything I wanted, other than turn on location tracking with >>> Seeri which has only become possible with IOS 13_ - that gets one gold star >>> in my book. The screen on the 6 is shattered and the ringer stopped working >>> quite some time ago, and some sounds and notifications were no longer >>> spoken, even though the actual function of receiving and sending calls and >>> mail and messages continued to work just fine. >>> I bought a cheap iPhone 6S that has 13.13.2.3 on to serve in the interim >>> before the SE came out. It's been weeks now, so I can't recall if the 6S >>> with 13.2.3 threw me any curve balls, but the SE with IOS 13.4.1 is driving >>> me crazy. >>> One of my main gripes has to do with mail. I use gmail on the new phone as >>> I did on the 6 and it has become a nightmare to write, read then edit >>> messages. I get these spontaneous spoken invitations to format text, insert >>> a picture, and other things others must also be seeing, at least if they >>> are using gmail on their SE's. I often cannot back space character by >>> character to read or delete text, or select text in any block. This can be >>> true for rereading text as well where I get thrown all over the place and >>> the cursor, seems to be somewhere other than where I am reading from, or >>> where voice over lead me to believe I was. I sometimes suspect it might be >>> trying to correct something even though I have all that turned off. >>> Then there is that insistent vertical scroll bar that gets activated all >>> the time when what I thought I was doing was simply reading text whether >>> it be on Facebook or in any other App. >>> The same voice over inaccuracy and jumpiness comes into play using Safari >>> which is the browser Apple uses. The Accessibility person said it was the >>> fault of the web site not voice over that, by way of example, when Voice >>> over told me that I was in a live edit field, and when I went to type in my >>> search criteria, I was bounced all over the place. This happened on the >>> Hadley site which is a learning tools service for the Blind. What the >>> person at the other end of the phone line saw was that I was not in an edit >>> field at all, but that I was in a green box with nothing in it. Another >>> time, when vo told I was in an edit field where I could type, the >>> accessibility guy said that I was actually on a picture of a woman. >>> I am astonished that voice over has become so unstable in the day to day >>> doing many of the things I've been doing for years using some of the same >>> web sites and mail programs. Has Hadley gone that far down the tubes in >>> terms of their web design? Or why are those speech codes no longer shared, >>> or working when they did with other versions of IOS? Is this by deliberate >>> design? If it is, my days as a consumer of Apple products may be over when >>> it comes time to get a new phone. >>> Can anyone please tell me what about all this is correct and what might >>> not be? For one thing, I guess I'd better go back and select voice over to >>> speak all images it encounters rather than just the labelled ones, so maybe >>> voice over won't confuse where I am and speak something that isn't true. 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